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  Can anyone recommend books?

  by ballistic in

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  i read crisis of c, now what?

  actually doesn't have to be about the dubs - i think i may over-load on dub-doom if i read anymore witness business.

  anyone recommend something else.

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  SloBoy

  SloBoy's Spouse here.

  Don't think my first email made it.

  Highly recommend: "The Poisonwood Bible," by Barbara Kingsolver.

  "Nothing and Everything to do with dubs, (to steal Farkel's Phrase).

  A Must Read.

  Happy hrs of perusing.

  SloBoy's Spouse
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  Please, I am so upset...I need some hugs...

  by Sentinel in

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  2. experiences

  i am having a very difficult time and i am here right now because i know in my heart, that when i explain what has just happened to me a few minutes ago, you will understand.

  many of you are no doubt going through the same thing.. within several posts here, i have spoken of my mother.

  my dear sweet mother, who just turned 78, and who has been a faithful jw since 1959. she abandoned me in 1981, when i decided to leave the borg, and for twelve years she did not speak to me, write to me, call me, or visit me.

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  SloBoy

  Sentinel,

  SloBoy's spouse here to give my 2 cents.

  SloBoy disassociated self. I didn't do the same. Trying the fade-away. 6 months of inactivity as of Sept. '02 after 34 yrs as pub.5 previous to that attending and being taken along to learn how to publish. Anyway, I digress.

  This spring a witness I cherish very much called from another area and asked if I would stand up for her at her wedding, as "no one else will do". I felt special and validated, (shoulda ducked, sucked in one final time!) The wedding was planned for the end of May. There was an emergency, the wedding was postponed. Some waiting to see how things would turn out, no word, I sent a card expressing concern and contributing monetarily to help in the emergency. My check was cashed. No word still. Two weeks ago I found out the Wedding is history, it happened, I was not notified. Worse yet? My cherished friend has moved back to our area (15 minutes from me), is working 2 blocks from my office, was in the lobby of my work place on Thursday. . . and has not called, written, or come to see me.

  The sad thing is I was fully prepared to say, "Listen Sweetie, in view of "SloBoy's " being DA'd I am going to beg off as Maid O' Honor, it would just make things uncomfortable for everyone". I wasn't allowed the courtesy.

  So gossip must travel fast and it must be pretty scathing in regards to SloBoy and I. Less than 115 days ago we took the young couple to dinner to celebrate their engagement, having traveled hundreds of miles, bearing beautiful engagement gifts.

  I am so angry, hurt and sad, need a good cry, keep swearing and ultimately come back to all the facts I know: They are dysfunctional, hateful, judgemental, have a 100% vested interest in compliance with shunning. In addition to that I remind myself. "What did I expect? I have been to one meeting since the Memorial, I am in College, I am outspoken against child molest and attend recovery group meetings." Not exactly publisher of the month material.

  Bottom Line for me? I can't change back. It would kill me.

  I feel for you. Sending love and concern. You are not alone.

  Love SloBoy's Spouse
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  I miss my mom

  by flower in

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  dont know why but lately i do.

  i feel so bad that i have been so mean to her lately.

  but ever since i found out the real deal about the organization i havent been able to even hear her voice without being feeling angry at her.

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  SloBoy

  Flower,

  Thanks for sharing. Not that it helps much, but your family life isn't that much different than most. Perhaps we should call it NORMAL DYSFUNCTION. Such "powerful learning" though, must eventually be addressed, for it will demand payment at some point in our lives. The WBTS has printed articles about this, but in reality they consider it a waste of time. Afterall, ARMAGEDDON IS COMING! Why take time away from theocratic pursuits for such self-centerd, selfish, endeavors. Riiiigghhtt! Such worthless endeavors that have freed many people from a nightmarish cycle of anger, hate, DEPRESSION. But congrats to you for it seems that you are on the verge of dealing with some visceral issues. May you have peace and success and always know that you are not alone.
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  Adult Children of Alcoholics

  by Ray Skyhorse in

  1. jw
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  how do witnesses view aa meetings and aca meetings?

  are they ok with the 12 steps?

  the reason i am asking is because i think it might be beneficial for my jw-wife to attend some aca meetings but i'm unsure of how "anti-aa" the witnesses are.. also, if anyone care to make any comments re aca meetings, i'm all ears.

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  SloBoy

  Thanks Scootergirl for your response.
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  Adult Children of Alcoholics

  by Ray Skyhorse in

  1. jw
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  how do witnesses view aa meetings and aca meetings?

  are they ok with the 12 steps?

  the reason i am asking is because i think it might be beneficial for my jw-wife to attend some aca meetings but i'm unsure of how "anti-aa" the witnesses are.. also, if anyone care to make any comments re aca meetings, i'm all ears.

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  Ray,

  While the WBTS occasionally prints articles seemingly favorable to AA, the posters are right about it being dependant on your local congregation's view. I know of one example in the last few years where the C.O. made it a point to condem outside help during his talk. After the talk, a brother asked if that included AA, he responded, " Yes, why would real Christians need it?". The presiding overseer then informed the brother ( who was attending AA meetings ), that the C.O.'s comment was specifically for him. The brother then asked the P.O. how the C.O. knew that he was in AA, and the P.O. sez, " I told him" (so much for confidentiality). The P.O. then, in ensuing conversation, says " Well, go to those meetings, but just remember, God's spirit isn't down there " ( now that's what I call encouragement ). I know of a number of J.W.'s whose lives have either ended or have been severly impacted by UNTREATED ALCOHOLISM. And yes, there is a difference between heavy drinking and ALCOHOLISM. AA does not believe it is the only way to get sober, but as they say, " if you want what we have, you are welcome ". Regardless of some of the critics here, if you think you've got a problem with alcohol try AA.
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  WT Attacks Being 'Easygoing' October,1,02 WT

  by ISP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  should you be easygoing?

  most people would probably feel that it is a compliment to be thought of as an easygoing person, one with a relaxed, placid, tolerant nature.

  however, there is another side to easygoingness.

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  SloBoy

  When I first saw this article, I thought " How much more complacent could a person be, than to abdicate their resposibility of thoughtful investigation. JW's don't need to bother to find out the truth of a matter, just let WBTS do it for them ". What a load of bogus propaganda!....btw..does anyone remember a C.O., D.O. named Angelo Manera. He'd go balistic over the parting phrase " take it easy ".
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  My Disfellowshipping

  by silentlambs in

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  my disfellowshipping

  as with anyone associated with jehovahs witnesses the worst possible news anyone can have is being df.

  it means a loss of everyone and everything you have known all your life.

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  SloBoy

  Dear Bill,

  My wife and I were just commenting on what amazing things have taken place in the last year. She reminded me of the one poster who said," the Dateline story is coming, yeah, right, and so is Armageddon ". What great progress. Let all know that from here on out, things will never be the same with regard to WBTS policy. No matter how hard they try to confuse and obscure, it will never go back. And whenever I hear any of them tout what a great child abuse policy they NOW have, I'll know that whatever good there is in that policy came about through the courageous efforts of people like you. And that angers the hierarchy more than anything else, even the abuse of innocent children. From this point on, all that is left for the WBTS is to either accept accountability, make true, humble amends or continue in their desperate course of unquenchable dishonesty. As a recent ex-Witness, my life has been impacted. I'm sure that a great many of us on this site have, in their own way, in their own locale, been dealing with heart-breaking circumstances. We just want you to know how much your example meant to our sanity, our health, perhaps our very lives. Seeing others act noblely, inspires others to endure. Thank-you. What lies ahead, well , it could be a guessing game, but whatever happens, I pray we can say AND DO all those things that make us true brothers.
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  The Pedophile Paradise

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the pedophile problem among the jws is very significant.

  over a year ago i made some extrapolations from a poll on jwd that conservatively suggested about 5,300 jw molesters in the usa, or about (1) jw pedophile for every (2) jw congregations in the united states.

  given that pedophiles molest many victims, at least 70 or more in their criminal careers by conservative estimates, this can add up to a lot of victims --- not all are necessarily jw victims --- but still the collective crimes of jw pedophiles would average over 370,000 victims.. since that time that over 5,000 victims have come forward to email, phone, and write letters to silentlambs --- as stated last night on connie chung/cnn.

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  SloBoy

  Hey...Did we get the significance of Jan's post when he said the term "pedophile paradise", when first used, had nothing to do with numbers. When I close my eyes and visualize "paradise", I most certainly don't see hordes of people. It describes, and rightfully so, a condition that is CONDUCIVE to the propagation of certain acts. Many congs. may well not have a pedophile in their midst( I've personally never seen such a cong. ), but that doesn't mean that the CONDITIONS and CICUMSTANCES aren't ripe for pedophile activity. I don't care how some choose to misconstrue the application of the term. Due to WBTS policy, it fits. And until you've seen people thrusting their small children into the arms of a CONVICTED molester just to prove that they don't believe no stinkin' courts decision, then you can't comprehend how wonderful the "paradise" truly is for such pedophiles.
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  even if the "new system" never comes

  by ConnieLynn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night i called to do the "check-in" thing on my mom.

  she had just been to the assembly and she was all fired up and decided to give me an earful.

  apparently, at the assembly all in attendance were told that "this is it" the end is nigh and they should do all they can to prepare for the impending destruction about to befall everyone.

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  SloBoy

  Hi ConnieLynn,

  I enjoyed meeting you at the get-together. This thread certainly is something many can relate to. Though no one in my family is a Witness( other than my wife ), I find it amazing at times to hear people respond like your mother. But someone once told me to look for the similarities and not always the differences. So on one hand, I can kinda relate to your mom. It's like what we call " hedging your bet ". When I look around at the world today I say "Gee, it COULD all come apart tomorrow". So the WBTS has capitalized on that concern of many people, has offered their version of deliverance and does what it needs to keep people in line. People, and rightly so, are betting that the system is going down. No matter what they say, they never really get this out of their mind. We are not honest enough to say, "look, I'm really afraid that if and when the world ends, I don't want to be on the losing side, whatever that may be. And these Witnesses have presented something to me, that for TODAY, looks hopeful. For TODAY, I'm willing to turn a bit of a blind eye to some pertinent facts and questionable conduct, and hang with them come hell or high water. And since I'm too afraid to let you know how really scared I am, I'm just going to say that ' even if it doesn't end, it's a good life ' ". For these people, this approach is, for TODAY, working. Though it does amaze me, I cannot judge them, for I too fell victim to this mindset. Detach with love, love from a distance, and continue with your own process. It's one of the ways I find peace through this whole thing.
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  CNN/Connie Chung/silentlambs

  by silentlambs in

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  2. friends

  wednesday evening at 7:00 pm cst there will be an airing of an interview with myself, heidi and amber with connie chung.

  there may be an additional followup on thursday.

  enjoy this wt.

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  SloBoy

  Great news Bill, I think I'll be parked in front of the tube Wed.eve.