so Adam.....where do we get the "truth", unfettered by profit incentives?
SloBoy
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Dangerous escalation
by Satanus ini was going to call the thread wwiii, but that's a bit sensational, isn't it?
the escalation pattern is in these headlines on a newsite i read sometimes.. china readies for future us war .
15,000 indonesian 'holy warriors' to fight for iraq .
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SloBoy
Maybe a little off subject, but.....did anyone else see what company was one of the big winners in getting contracts to "re-build" Iraq?...remember Hali-burton? That's right, the same Hali-burton that V.P. Dick Cheney was a board member of. Have these guy's no shame?
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Got my elders visit yesterday...
by meat pie ini've been off-line for a bit, broken what-not in the computer,just got back on so i thought i'd tell you what happened yesterday.elder d rang to ask if 'we' could visit, ok says i, the other is the old ms who i studied with.
meantime i'd got my file on un/wts ready(it's been ready for ages) and primed husband to witness the entertainment.this went on for about an hour and a half.i was utterly in control of myself and the entire interrogation(me of them).neither of them would look at any of my evidence of the wt's blasphemous hypocrisy, so i read it out to them,(you come to my house so i'm going to tell you this) they tried to wriggle their way out but i wanted them to admit their weakness.
i really let them have it.they parried i thrusted.
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SloBoy
As has been said before.......what the WBTS fears the most is a BALANCED, INFORMED, EX- Jehovah's Witness......carry on you brave ones!!
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I went to a Christian retreat on Saturday
by Mulan inokay, don't get excited...............it was at a christian women's retreat...........location only.
princess, one of my daughters in law and i all went for an all day scrapbooking event 9am - 9pm.
it was for the entire weekend, friday through sunday, but we opted for the saturday part only.
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SloBoy
Thanks for the experience..........and life goes on.....
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What is the worst thing about leaving?
by sleepy in.
everyone probably has a slightly different experience when leaving the witnesses.the worst aspect about this for me is the realisation that my enteire life has been lived and directed by a false premiss, and the effect past decisions now have on my life.. it can make me feel sick in the stomach on occation.. also the idea that friends and family think i have tuned bad or evil to have left jehovah is qute disturbing at times.
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SloBoy
Having been out only for a few months, a number of the consequences are still, I'm sure, floating around in my sub-conscious. I am on a journey of acceptance. The key is to not panic or freak-out over what I find, knowing ( thanks Simon ) that many others have trudged this path with dignity.
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Something cool happened...
by flower ini had the surprise of my life yesterday when i got home from work and played the message on my machine.
it was one of my five brothers.
all of whom i havent spoken to but a handful of times over the years.
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SloBoy
Flower......that's really good to hear, hope all works out well with your brother.
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Israel framed Al Queda Who do you trust?
by Iron Eagle inthat got your attention.
so who do you trust?
do you really think that al queda are responsible for attacking america on 9/11 ?
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SloBoy
Can someone help me with this?.......When the WTC garage was first bombed back in the 1990's, they evacuated everyone, I believe, from the north tower. The estimate of those evacuated at that time was apprx. 28,000 people. How is it that BOTH TOWERS were brought down on 9/11 and there were only 3000 casualities?
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Why do some of you get so worked up over this, JW's control relies on lack
by Its so simple inpersonal growth.
most people are angry at themselves for not seeing it sooner and they just blame the wtbs.
if it was not them there would be something else that 'filled their need' and would have ensnared them.
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SloBoy
Simple,....actually, a good post. I've come to learn that it's very important for me to take a personal inventory and see what part I am responsible for. As an adult, I need to be aware of what was going on in my life that allowed me to "willingly" co-operate with the abuse from the WBTS. It doesn't exonerate them for their deeds, nor does it fix the consequences in my life from years of affiliation. But it can, in some way, keep me from hopefully falling victim to a similar circumstance.
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BUSH - "No excuse, 'I was just following orders.'"
by confuzcious indid anyone else pick up on bush's quote?.
"no excuse that i was just following orders..." (to the iraqi army).
i thought that was interesting since the parallel is that if anyone (elder, organization, watchtower) says anything contrary to the bible, we can't use that excuse either.
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SloBoy
This is a principle that applies equally to Iraqi soldiers AND American troops.
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The real victims of "peace"
by expatbrit inthe victims are the children, of course.. in 1999 unicef (the united nations children's fund) conducted a survey in iraq to determine the effect of sanctions on iraq, imposed by the united nations.. what had sanctions done?the surveys reveal that in the south and center of iraq -- home to 85 per cent of the country's population -- under-5 mortality more than doubled from 56 deaths per 1000 live births (1984-1989) to 131 deaths per 1000 live births (1994-1999).
likewise infant mortality -- defined as the death of children in their first year -- increased from 47 per 1000 live births to 108 per 1000 live births within the same time frame.
the surveys indicate a maternal mortality ratio in the south and center of 294 deaths per 100,000 live births over the ten-year period 1989 to 1999. .
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SloBoy
BTW.......savvy officials throughout the world are very concerned about this "pre-emptive war" mentality. Setting the precedent of " since I am the badest dude around, I know whats best for y'all" can have some very negative consequences. In a perfect world, where one hopes the powerful are morally guided, such a policy would work. Imagine how this will play out even in our own streets when every other "dude" firmly believes he has the moral high-ground and "pre-emptively" acts as judge, jury, and executioner.