I have never been able to watch one of their videos all the way through. Personally find them disgusting. It's not a Who's your favorite apostate contest, but I really think they do more harm than good in reasonably exposing JW error. I find their approach to be the exact opposite of someone like Ray Franz.
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Congrats to Kim Mikey!
by awake!watcher incongrats to kim mikey, mike and kim reached 3000 subscribers on their youtube channel!
go check em out!
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JW's Funerals, Forget About The Person! Let's Preach.
by new boy ingod forbid you would talk about the dead person at his funeral.
so what do most people get after living 70-80 years?.
a 5-10 minutes eulogy.
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Performed many funerals and, for many years, have not followed the provided outline. My talk was all about the person and how they lived their life. I think the worse thing you could do would be to try to preach doctrine or recruit. The persons life course speaks loudly enough, no matter how important they were in the organization.
It is a time for providing comfort not preaching.
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Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!
by the girl next door innow what is your stance?
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Girl Next Door
You are brilliant!
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New York Daily News Article
by zophar insweet jesus real estate deal.
monday 12/14/15.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/jehovah-witnesses-1-billion-nyc-properties-article-1.2464957.
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New York Daily News Article
by zophar insweet jesus real estate deal.
monday 12/14/15.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/jehovah-witnesses-1-billion-nyc-properties-article-1.2464957.
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Sweet Jesus Real Estate Deal
Monday 12/14/15
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I gave the elders some ammo to use
by atacrossroads ini was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.
a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.
if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.
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I used to be scared shitless about the prospect of being df'd but now I don't even care.
Maybe you are ready to leave, now is the opportunity and you will be on to your new life. As already mentioned there is the trauma that comes with shunning, but if you are ready, you are ready. It looks like you are heading down that path anyway.
Unfortunately, the way these things usually go, if it's not this event, it will be something else. Once the "investigation" begins it never ends.
Wish you the best.
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How was it for you when you had to shun someone?
by Anator ini remember a good friend when i was in and active who was d'fd.
when he started coming back, for me at that time is was gut-wrenching not to say 'hello' or at the very least encourage him to continue.
i thought even at this time, does this act of shunning really effective?
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I never felt like I had to shun someone, but I understand completely what you are saying. I guess I used the excuse that I was an elder and I had certain rights so I could encourage a DF person. Of course I was just making excuses so I could act like a human and not shun!
Then again, there were some people I was delighted to shun whether they were disfellowshipped or not. 😄
It is very distressing to see, for example, a mother shun her DF daughter at a time when the daughter needs her mother the most. It is inexcusable and not Christ like behavior.
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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?
by Dunedain inthere were always all types of speakers in the org.
myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.
other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.
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My mom passed away yesterday....
by minimus inthank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.
finally, she is at peace.
i was with her , holding her hand when she died.
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Has anyone noticed how in the October JW Broadcast, Losch encourages good works towards ALL people?
by Tenacious ini can't help but notice how this past year alone has seen the gb start to turn more towards the teachings of the christ instead of peddling their falsities.. study articles have talked in length about the fine works of christ.
assemblies have been dedicated to speaking about christ.
and this month's broadcast is about doing good to others copying the example christ left for us.. what's more shocking is that losch actually says kids should speak, share, and even give food and clothing to non-believers!!
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Good observation!
I noticed the same thing. It reminded me of the big controversy in the late 70's and early 80's about "Sacred Service" and what it is. For a while there they had it right, Sacred Service was everything you did as a Christian. This included good works toward thy neighbor. No doubt, this was, in a large part due to the influence of Dunlap and Raymond Franz and the research they did on the subject. They even re-named the Theocratic Ministry School to the Theocratic School. (They changed it back a few years later, but people still say Theocratic School instead of Theocratic Ministry School to this day.) And renamed Kingdom Ministry to Kingdom Service.
The big idea was all put to rest once Ray and Dunlap left and they went hard line that Sacred Service was only things related to direct worship. Being a good neighbor was not sacred service. Going in field service was.
In fact, early on, Rutherford came down hard on what was called Character Development, saying the preaching was what should be stressed instead. Now, Losch gives this long rant about basically, Character Development! It was very striking to me.
But that is how New Light works don't you see. You are going one direction, then you switch to a new direction, then you switch back to the old direction, then back again to a new direction..........