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  $5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

  it was sold a couple of years ago.

  we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

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  zophar

  ....hmm

  Not doing what you said you would?
  

  What happened to :
  

  Matthew 5:37 Just let your word ‘Yes’ mean yes, your ‘No,’ no, for what goes beyond these is from the wicked one.
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  The fly doesn't know it's in a bottle....

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... the walls are transparent.

  so if you want to help the fly escape you first have to convince the fly that it's in a bottle, and only then can it find its way out.

  that is taken from this american life episode 635 called "chip in my brain".

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  zophar

  I was surprised he was found guilty, especially in the State of Texas. It is a religiously conservative State and there are a lot of fundamentalists, many of which believe in the implanted chip being the Mark Of The Beast. No one can buy or sell without the Mark.

  That is what AJ believes too, but like you said he was excellent at employing "Theocratic Warfare" he just probably known it is called that!

  Thanks for the link.
  
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. social
  2. humour

  is this true?

  is this really true?!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

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  zophar

  Did you notice they refer to "the male animal?"

  Does that mean they now support evolution, we are merely animals and not the image of God?
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  New Member Of The Governing Body 24 Jan 2018

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just seen this announced on reddit:.

  ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.

  i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.

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  zophar

  This has been posted on JW.org

  News Alerts

  BREAKING NEWS | Kenneth Cook Appointed to the Governing Body

  On Wednesday morning, January 24, 2018, it was announced to the United States and Canada Bethel families that Kenneth Cook had been appointed to the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Prior to being appointed to the Governing Body, Brother Cook was a helper to the Writing Committee.

  Brother Cook started pioneering on September 1, 1982, and began serving at the United States branch on October 12, 1984. The Governing Body is now composed of eight anointed brothers.

  It is our united prayer that Jehovah continue to bless the Governing Body as it oversees the activities of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.—1 Thessalonians 5:12, 13

  
  

  
  
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  "Wondrous expansion is now taking place!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we have all heard the worldwide reports about khalls being sold off and congregations being amalgamated etc.... of course, jws are being told that these actions are a sign of "just how much the work is progressing, and how jehovah is blessing the increase and expansion!".

  i can share the following from my part of the world too!.

  in perth, western australia the following has occurred.. three "new" congregations have been formed!

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  zophar

  In the description of the property we read:

  The alternative is for community and church groups to enjoy the substantial improvements and car parking area, knowing the underlying land value is significant.
  

  .....so they also have the positive feature that they can help expand Babylon the Great thanks to the hard work, and evidently with the blessings of God's happy people!
  
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  Loyalty.....the new buzzword promoted by the watchtower Bible and tract society

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  loyalty appears to be the buzzword constantly promoted by the gb at the moment.

  we hear it at conventions, assemblies, and meetings.. let's face it loyalty covers so much.

  shunning of family, friends etc.

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  zophar

  SnuggleBunny:
  

  “BROTHERS, I cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what I needed when I needed it most.”

  "....boy I wish they would have put in my hands that it is ok to have an organ transplant before my child died refusing one!" Said the grief stricken mother!

  Or substitute "blood fractions"

  Or "career" Awake 5/22/1969: "you will never fulfill any career that this system offers."

  Very convenient that the food comes just when needed for a select group, the rest of us, not so much.
  

  
  

  
  
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  Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

  quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

  especially for the first sister they talk about!.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Your post brought back many memories. My wife and I were part of the 1200 per year club too. At least you have your freedom of thinking now. Better it took 30 years than never!

  The memories linger and at times torment though don't they?
  
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  Will #metoo have an affect on forcing changing attitudes at Watchtower?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  despite decades of the feminist movement, watchtower's attitude of woman being inferior has changed little, with pauline sexism justified as inspired, on the basis that women are lesser emotionally, intellectually and physically.

  jehovah's witnesses seem to accept this with little resistance.

  is there anything about the #metoo movement that may wake followers up?

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  The laws have always been the laws.

  Anita Hill didn't fare so well when she reported, and she was appearing before the law makers. One could say it was "he said, she said" but the setting was pretty much one woman before a room full of men. Hum, sort of like a JW molestation judicial hearing. No women need apply!
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  Will The Governing Body Be Resigning From Controlling The Corporation When Things Get Worse And Worse?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  will they be making a lot of their gb helpers full fledge gb?

  i think as they continue to loose money and members and contributions dry up, that many might be thinking how to get out of this financial mess with some sort of golden parachute, and hand over the reigns to their helpers.. i'm sure with all this bad that is happening to the corporation they would welcome an early retirement with a nice comfy nest egg away from all this bad publicity away from the public eye.

  why do they want to keep fighting a losing battle give over their power for a nice comfy retirement.

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  zophar

  .....and how exactly did Hitler die once he knew things were doomed?

  Some people just can't let go.
  
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  Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.

  so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.

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  zophar

  As a PIMO elder, I found doing funerals presented a great opportunity for me to speak "truth." The so called "talk" became a eulogy with anecdotes from the deceased's past. An opportunity to remind the audience that the deceased had believed they might never die and how they lived with that disappointment in their later years. I defined their faith in Jehovah, not an organization and reminded the audience that God never lied and he was faithful, hint, hint

  Once, a known apostate attended a funeral I performed. He was very complimentary and expressed his appreciation. Best comment I heard! I did my job!

  ....oh and yes, I have been called to the back room of Kingdom Halls many times. Seems independent or free thinking is very much frowned on by leaders. The rank and file however seem to appreciate a refreshing change from what they are used to hearing at a JW memorial or funeral. Maybe that is why I've beeen asked to do so many funerals. People long to hear good things about a loved one's life and experience. Chastising into doing more for JW .... not so much!

  One of the few things I was proud of while an elder.