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  Jesus Heals a Man in a Healing Temple Dedicated to the Pagan God Asclepiuss

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure that christian apologists could invent all kind of reasons for jesus to enter such a temple, but this story also.

  begs the question, as to why so many jews were waiting in that temple for asclepius to heal them?.

  but we should read the account in john 5:1-4 first:.

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  Outahere

  Just about any activity was associated with some Greek deity or other.
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  Jesus Heals a Man in a Healing Temple Dedicated to the Pagan God Asclepiuss

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure that christian apologists could invent all kind of reasons for jesus to enter such a temple, but this story also.

  begs the question, as to why so many jews were waiting in that temple for asclepius to heal them?.

  but we should read the account in john 5:1-4 first:.

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  Outahere

  Lots of pilgrims back then. Needed ritual Jewish bath before going up into the Temple.
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  Jesus Heals a Man in a Healing Temple Dedicated to the Pagan God Asclepiuss

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure that christian apologists could invent all kind of reasons for jesus to enter such a temple, but this story also.

  begs the question, as to why so many jews were waiting in that temple for asclepius to heal them?.

  but we should read the account in john 5:1-4 first:.

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  Outahere

  Mikveh bath built by Herod. Same dude as built the Temple.
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  Jesus Heals a Man in a Healing Temple Dedicated to the Pagan God Asclepiuss

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure that christian apologists could invent all kind of reasons for jesus to enter such a temple, but this story also.

  begs the question, as to why so many jews were waiting in that temple for asclepius to heal them?.

  but we should read the account in john 5:1-4 first:.

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  Outahere

  It's Jerusalem. It's probably a Mikveh bath.
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  How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?

  by minimus in

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  because of this site i realized that there were many people who were active jehovah’s witnesses really didn’t believe in god at all.

  i’m curious how many people believe in god?

  i’m not interested in debating why you shouldn’t have a belief in a god or should.

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  Outahere

  For me, it's an ongoing journey

  Agreed. According to Peck's model, I think most JW's might be at level two. Most of us who have left are at least at level three.

  http://www.whale.to/b/peck1.html
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  How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of this site i realized that there were many people who were active jehovah’s witnesses really didn’t believe in god at all.

  i’m curious how many people believe in god?

  i’m not interested in debating why you shouldn’t have a belief in a god or should.

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  Outahere

  Not a game Minimus just a perfectly reasonable question.
  Many people who claim to believe in god actually have in mind a vague, nebulous notion of some - hopefully benevolent - supernatural being. Others are thinking about an imminent god who answers prayers, observes everything that happens, cares about who we sleep with and how we do it and who is going to punish those who don't return his 'love'.
  The difference is so profound that asking people if they 'believe in god' is a meaningless question that nobody should indulge without further explanation.

  There's an old poem that's tangentially related to what you're saying. It's about blind men and an elephant.
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  Bucket list

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone have a bucket list and has it helped you achieve anything?

  someone said i should do one.

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  Outahere

  I hope you guys get to see and do all the things you dream of.
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  How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of this site i realized that there were many people who were active jehovah’s witnesses really didn’t believe in god at all.

  i’m curious how many people believe in god?

  i’m not interested in debating why you shouldn’t have a belief in a god or should.

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  Outahere

  When I learned the truth about the truth, I stopped believing. For me those were the first steps in a long journey.
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  "Righteous in a sense"

  by floridaborn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i cannot believe i let 7 men in new york tell me god didn't consider me righteous.

  how do people that believe in god put up with this crap!!

  no wonder in all my years i had a hard time praying.

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  The heavenly/earthly hope bifurcation has to be one of the stupidest things they teach. The memorial, where everyone basically just passes the bread and wine over, is one of the stupidest things they do. Basically it's a great "reject Jesus" celebration.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

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  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  Outahere

  Well, what they've shown is that it's highly statistically improbable that we didn't all descend from a common ancestor (which is good enough for me).