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  The faithful steward mystery - solved at last!

  by BoogerMan in

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  w13 7/15 p. 20 “who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” revealed it was a bunch of guys in new york, back in 1919.. the apostle paul must have been un-inspired when he wrote this back in the 1st century:.

  (1 corinthians 4:1, 2) “a man should regard us [all christians/paul, apollos & peter?

  ] as attendants of christ and stewards of god’s sacred secrets.

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  The GB says the light of understanding keeps getting brighter. But I think it's about time someone pointed out that they forgot to turn it on.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Slimboyfat was not being insulting, he was just persistent in making his point. Evans was being insulting, while also complaining that he was being harassed and that this harassment was affecting him and his wife. His attempts to manipulate others are so over-the-top as to be cartoonish (and insulting to people who really do suffer from mental health issues). One of the things you can say about his ultimate ban- he cannot complain that he did not get ample opportunity to stop being an obnoxious jerk here.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LMsA: But he had to pontificate about never giving his children false information

  I'll bet his explanation to them about how he spent last Christmas must have been fascinating.
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  The MODERN DAY tourist guide shooting themselves in the foot.

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  the tourist guide as obtained from the kingdom rule book chapter 5 paragraphs 1-6. the book states..... the spirit of the truth .

  will guide you into all the truth.”.

  the spirit is jesus’ means of teaching his followers whatever they need to know about god’s kingdom​—right when they need to know it.. me: who are your tourist guide today?.

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  BluesBrother: it seems that they themselves don’t know when the Spirit is on them or it isn’t,

  Indeed. I wonder how many of their doctrinal changes were the result of indigestion that they mistook for divine intervention.
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  Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?

  and what`s the significance, if any ?.

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  Hmmm... if Jesus was God incarnate, I'm not sure I'd want to be known as the guy who snipped the tip of His dick off. Maybe the foreskin shriveled and dropped off eight days after He was born.
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  “Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  “this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”.

  the destruction of jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things.

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  Just ask to have it "Simonized."
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  It's possible that Lot's daughters had a conversation like this:

  First Daughter: Goodness, I can't believe that dad almost handed us over to that rabid crowd! I shudder at the thought of what they would have done to us. What do you think?

  Second Daughter: I think dad betrayed us! He's awful! SCREW HIM!!!

  First Daughter: Well, uh, okay I guess. But we'll have to get him drunk, first...
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  No funeral

  by road to nowhere in

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  i have run across another jw death where the final wishes are for no service.

  3rd or 4th instance.

  another wanted a celebration of life which the elders squelched as far as i know.

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  They use the wake as an opportunity to deliver a sermon. And yes, it's very classless.
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  114,000, Literal, or Symbolic?

  by Wonderment in

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  a poster wrote to me privately, and brought to my attention the following comment below i made a while back in regards to the 144,00 number of revelation.

  i had casually conjectured that this number was likely symbolic in line with the book of revelation being mostly symbolic in kind.

  he brought up this juicy source:.

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  I would ask if there is a way to determine the meaning of the number, if it is symbolic. If I am remembering correctly, there is a reference to 12,000 who are chosen from each of the twelve tribes, and 12,000 x 12 = 144,000. We know the reference to the twelve tribes of Israel. What is the symbolic meaning of the number 12,000?

  Lacking that, his point has some weight to it. Granted, I would think that the number must have some meaning. Why pull it out of thin air and then use it in a formula to get the 144,000 number? That doesn't seem sensible to me.
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  News story claims: "Jehovah’s Witnesses" are QAnon believers"

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  i was googling the subject and came across this story.

  i just had an incredible phone conversation with a long-time jw who has strong "q-anon" "sovereign citizen" beliefs.

  the wife(first gen) says she is not surprised.

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  jhine: A rough outline of it's policies seem to be Republican heroes battling the Democrat satan worshipping, paedophile , cannibals .

  That doesn't sound far from my understanding of it. I think it's partially a mash-up of several conspiracy theories. Get enough conspiracy nuts in one place, and they start bouncing ideas off of one another and before long, you've got threads connecting everything that ever happened in human history and laying it at the feet of some powerful group or other. I had a friend who followed that stuff (still does, to some degree) and it's impossible to figure out.

  One story was that a local pizza shop in Washington DC had a basement dungeon where kidnapped children were tortured and sacrificed to Satan so that the liberal elites could... extend their lives? Make more money? I'm not quite sure what the goal was. Slight problem with the whole idea-- the pizza shop in question doesn't have a basement. This doesn't slow the nuts down: they just claim that the denials are proof of the existence of the basement and of its use for devil-worship.

  Another story was that President Trump was working with the US Marines to unravel this demonic cabal and issue mass arrest orders for a large number of politicians and congress people. When Hillary Clinton was seen wearing a small cast on her foot, they claimed that this was actually a new form of electronic monitor and that it showed that she had already been quietly arraigned. When Arizona senator John McCain passed away, it was supposed to have been a hit designed to remove him, apparently at Trump's orders.

  How did my friend know all of this? Some fellow named "Q" was posting these messages to an internet message board. The inference was that he was very close to the President and seeing all of this firsthand. "Q" would post confusing and (supposedly) coded messages that would be 'deciphered' after any notable event occurred, making it seem as if he'd known what was happening all along. It was sort of like Nostradamus's work: you could interpret the rambling however you needed to, in order to reinforce the idea that he was an insider, sharing critical information with 'real patriots.'

  It died down a bit when a few of the expected outcomes (including the mass arrests of Hillary and pals) never materialized. But enough nuts are still working to interpret the signs and figure out what those devil-loving child killers are going to do next. I no longer get updates from that fellow, and its just as well. I think even he felt betrayed after being led to expect something big over and over and having nothing come of it. Kind of like being a JW during the Rutherford years.