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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - September 2023

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  come join the fun and place your bets for how many patrons lloyd evans will lose for september 2023. .

  this month, we start the count at today's tally, 487. we'll check his stats on september 4th (to allot for the weekend after the 1st) and see who gets the closest.

  your prize is bragging rights for a full month!.

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  I wonder how long it will be, before the number of people who support him on Patreon is shorter than the number of people on this list.
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  Fellow exElders: did you ever get to hear of ...

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was serving as an elder, it because relatively common to hear of wild drunken house parties of witness youths.

  i investigated one, it was so bad that the cops turned up and found empty bottles of whiskey on the lawn and smashed out on the road.

  but every led went cold, with all the kids clamming up.

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  *sigh* I missed out. Not to say that there weren't plenty of youths who would have done this, but my mother was one of several parents who wouldn't ever have let us out of her sight until we were 18. And honestly, I was too much of a square to ever have gone to such a party without spilling the beans as soon as possible.

  Being raised by fundies sucks.
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  Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

  by MebyonKernow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

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  If it's true, then the problem isn't that they threw him under the bus (though I expect that they will, if this becomes a big story). The problem is that they tried to sweep it under the rug. They have tried to make him go away as quietly as they can. A short announcement on the site, which was then removed. A place for him to stay, apparently paid for by the organization?

  If they know of any potential scandals that he is involved in, and they responded by trying to make him disappear, it's not just a bad look. It's a plaintiff's lawyer's dream.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - September 2023

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  come join the fun and place your bets for how many patrons lloyd evans will lose for september 2023. .

  this month, we start the count at today's tally, 487. we'll check his stats on september 4th (to allot for the weekend after the 1st) and see who gets the closest.

  your prize is bragging rights for a full month!.

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  I'm going all in, -29 for a total of 458.
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  Do the WTBTS & JW ORG speak in Jehovah's name?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (deuteronomy 18:20,22) “‘if any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that i did not command him to speak...that prophet must die.

  when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then jehovah did not speak that word.

  the prophet spoke it presumptuously.

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  I think there was a WT article where they addressed this, by stating that they never prefaced their words with "this is the word of Jehovah" or any similar statement claiming direct inspiration or direction.

  I consider it hair-splitting, myself.
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  If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).

  i still belive this is the truth.

  i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.

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  TxNVSue2023: Anyway so if you belive JW is NOT the truth, then what religion do you belive is?

  I don't believe that there is one, but that is in part because we've spent thousands of years trying to figure it out, and the best we can do is several major religions that are split into tens of thousands of denominations, many of which insist that they have the most truthy truth or the only truth. If billions of people over thousands of years can't figure it out, maybe there isn't a way to figure it out. Or, alternatively, there isn't one.
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  Is JW.org going Broke?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

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  JW GoneBad: It actually takes a great deal of time & it can get expensive converting non-liquid assets into cash.

  And also, when you are trying to liquidate assets to deal with a cash crunch, you will almost never get a good deal. You will be selling them at below-market values. You might even be forced to accept some pretty bad deals. It's a very inefficient way to raise capital.
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  Aside from the alleged "composite Sign", what is the scriptural evidence for Christ's 1914 presence?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  my take is: 1914 is not biblical since no dates are in the bible.

  a hodgepodge of scriptures are ingeniously linked together; then stir in about 9 creative assumptions to arrive at a speculative theory on which to base wts authority.. nathan knorr to fred franz.

  "there are some things that i know.

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  EasyPrompt: this might be one of the links..

  That info looks familiar, and I think it's one of the sources that the blogger used. Thank you!
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  Disfellowshipped for Fornication

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

  i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

  i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

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  After reinstatement, you are considered a member of the congregation again, and the brothers and sisters will greet you and talk to you again, and you can take part in meetings (giving answers, doing demonstrations, etc) and field service.

  As for gossip, that depends on the people, not your situation.
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  "outside of time" argument

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

  (https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

  a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

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  Re: spacing-- the text box this site uses automatically inserts a line break when you hit the Enter key when typing a message. If you are used to hitting enter twice to create a line break, or if you compose your posts in a text editor which lacks this feature, you can end up with extra line breaks between paragraphs.

  This happens to me if I compose a message in notepad and then paste it in. I end up having to remove the extra line breaks before I post the message.