How... discouraging.
TonusOH
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
He uses the term 'self-care' as a reference to his claims of struggling with his mental health. He uses his mental health as a shield against criticism and a way to get easy sympathy from the people who still support him. Yet another reminder to those people: he's using your sympathy to collect money from you.
So, what precipitated this mental health crisis that he continues to use to further his grift? His wife wouldn't agree to an open marriage, which he considered "a mind fuck." This, from the guy who was paying prostitutes for sex for years. Who had been caught multiple times sexting girls. Who admitted to infidelity because he wanted sex because his wife couldn't satisfy him. All of that? Not a mind fuck. His wife objecting to more of the same under the heading of "open marriage"? Mind fuck.
In other words: "mental health struggle" and "self-care" are euphemisms for "selfish asshole and terrible human being."
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First Half of the Book of Hebrews (Study Edition) Now Available Online
by Wonderment inapril 11, 2024 (source: jw.org) .
first half of the book of hebrews (study edition) now available online.
the first half of the bible book of hebrews (chapters 1-7) is now available in the study edition of the new world translation of the holy scriptures on jw.org and in jw library.
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TonusOH
LeeMerk, you can click the "like" option and reverse the dislike that you accidentally left.
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"Everyone Wants To Leave"
by NotFormer ina thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.
his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.
it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?
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TonusOH
On the one hand, there are people who prefer for every decision to be made for them. If it's a group of men claiming to be god's direct channel, and they do all of the heavy lifting (interpreting the Bible, behavioral rules, general guidance), that is good enough for these individuals.
On the other hand, there are so many people who chafe at not being able to develop relationships with "worldly" people. Especially when it is so onerous that you realize you are looking bad, such as not taking part in a charity drive or other helpful community activity. Or not observing holidays to such a degree that you respond to "Merry Christmas" by either offering a flat "thank you" or pretending you did not hear them. I think there is a part of us that feels left out socially, and that hurts because we are social creatures.
The WTS may be afraid that allowing the rank-and-file to develop normal friendships and observe common activities will weaken them, but I think they are wrong.
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Quality of jw.org translation?
by Wonderment insomeone asked the following question to an artificial intelligence (ai) website:.
how does the most translated website ensure accuracy of translations?.
answer: .
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TonusOH
Being surrounded by adoring yes-men probably didn't help.
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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TonusOH
If they are dependent on contributions, then the more people they retain and attract, the larger the pool of potential contributors. Times are changing and they are being forced to change along with them.
Of course, the other part (and perhaps the more important one right now) is that they're looking to change or remove anything that gives governments a reason to restrict them somehow. Especially if it involves not giving them money, as in Norway. Or changing policies that are costing them via court cases and lawsuits and bad press.
First, stop the bleeding. Then, build the base of paying customers. I mean loyal witnesses.
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TonusOH
I saw a comment elsewhere to the effect of "the Juice has expired."
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Super Duper Awkward
by Slidin Fast indid anyone else find the teen section on the meeting tonight massively cringeworthy?
i saw two kids who will be laughing stocks for life after their world wide exposure.
complete exploitation in my opinion, unforgivable..
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TonusOH
JW teens aren't going to mock those two. They know it is just an acted part.
But this just makes the WTS seem painfully out-of-touch. Is that what they think happens in high school? "You're a Jehovah's Witness? That's HOT! Let's do it right here, before the next class-- wait! Don't leave! Please come baaaaaaaaa..."
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I guess he'll never find the real killers now.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
I think the "my book" shirt is pretty funny. Good use of the classic color scheme. I wouldn't buy one, though.
I don't have an issue with his desire to create a merch shop. I would ask why it took so long, but I think he realizes that it's not a great idea. exJWs --particularly the newly-out who are likely drawn to his channel-- will not be inclined to advertize their situation with merchandise. Especially t-shirts. They will probably recognize it as a tasteless or tone-deaf move. So this isn't for them.
This is for the remaining saps who still send him money and haven't given up yet. It's a way to take even more of their money while he continues to struggle to produce content. In order to draw more interest and sales, he'll need to branch out. But what can he add that isn't JW-related? Merchandise attacking religion? Promoting atheism? Pushing his vendetta? What? What can he produce that people would want to buy?
I can't think of anything. And a merch shop will not resolve the issue of the slow content rollout and the lack of enthusiam and lack of direction he has been showing for months, now. It just means that when the grift finally ends, the amount of money he will have drained from people's wallets will be that much larger. I can't say it enough: this is the man you are supporting with your dollars. At this point, you deserve to get ripped off.