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  JW's lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a New Zealand Royal Commission

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the jehovah's witnesses have lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a new zealand royal commission.

  "a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church challenging a ruling by the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the court of appeal.

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515102/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-appeal-dismissed.

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  "We welcome transparecy."

  "Great! We are starting a commission to investigate CSA..."

  "L-leave us out of it! We mean it! We'll sue!"
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  Apostate lies are NOW fulfilling BIBLE PROPHECY 😅

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new study article 28 watchtower that has just been published on jw.org is about apostate lies and introduces new concepts in their effort to compat apostasy in the congregations.

  so despite the loosening of their recent disfellowshipping rules their fight against apostates is still raging hard.

  according to the foreword of this article, they will concentrate on :.

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  For example, picture yourself listening as the ten Israelite chieftains gave their negative report. Would you have believed the report and given in to the fear of man, or would your love for Jehovah and your desire to please him have won out?

  If they had that much trust in Jehovah, why did they bother sending spies or asking for a report?
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  New light: the GB are infallible

  by AEnEm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  amazing new light in the latest morning worship by gary breaux.

  the gb "never lie or deceive us.

  we can have absolute trust in the governing body".. he then makes a very helpful point, so as to avoid being deceived and avoid lies.

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  Yes, it's a bit of sleight-of-hand. Claim that you are god's channel on Earth, the only means by which Jehovah communicates his will to humanity. Then admit that you're prone to making mistakes and you don't always get everything right. You are claiming exclusive divine authority, while also disclaiming any responsibility.

  In other words, if they happen to get something wrong, it's god's fault. I used to think they placed themselves between Jehovah and Jesus, but I think it's more like they place themselves alongside Jehovah.
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  JW's lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a New Zealand Royal Commission

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the jehovah's witnesses have lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a new zealand royal commission.

  "a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church challenging a ruling by the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the court of appeal.

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515102/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-appeal-dismissed.

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  They welcome scrutiny... of anyone else.

  I'm sure their experience with the ARC left quite a sour taste in their mouths (and pocketbook). I can only imagine what will be revealed in this inquiry.
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  How they could change blood doctrine

  by Person in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many people say gb will soon dump blood doctrine to appear less fanatical.

  others saying it is impossible for them to do that because of legal ramifications.

  i think there is a way that could potentially be solution to those problems.

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  Their only recourse is to make it a conscience matter. They may not like that, because it will look like they are trying to weasel out of dealing with the issue directly. Since that is exactly what they would be doing, I say too bad. Be thankful that you're not being called to account for all of the death and suffering this stupid policy caused.

  Do that enough times, and hopefully more and more JWs will recognize that there is one conscience matter they could exercise to resolve many more of these issues: walking away from the WTS.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  He's waiting for Taylor Swift to accept his request for an interview. It is slow going so far, as he has only been able to reach an assistant of an assistant of an assistant, and she is refusing his demand to "speak with Taylor right now!" When he asked "don't you know who I am?" she hung up. This poor, overworked go'fer has been added to the lawsuit as "some idiot in California who doesn't appreciate the efforts of professional activists."

  As we speak, he is working feverishly on a blistering Facebook post where he will blame Kim for the entire mess.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses' "disfellowshipping" examined in Psychiatric Journal. "How Religious Shunning Ruins Lives".

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if it is illegal for minors to get married, enter into contracts, drink, and smoke, why is it legal for them to enter into lifelong religious contracts they can not break without family shunning and community ostracism????

  how religious shunning ruins lives.

  a form of institutionalized estrangement, shunning hurts health of the excluded.. updated march 27, 2024 |psychology today magazine.

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  At the least, they should make it a policy to discourage young people from getting baptized. But that runs counter to their narrative, because they just love it when a very young person gets baptized. They feel that it's a good look, and it also pressures anyone else who isn't baptized ('if this young person can dedicate himself to Jehovah, what is holding you back?').

  I don't think outsiders are very impressed by it, but the rank-and-file eat that stuff up.
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  The Governing Body Are Proud To announce..

  by Ron.W. in

  1. social
  2. humour

  the governing body are proud to announce... can you finish off the line for them - the more outrageous the better,, .

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  "...the holy spirit has granted us new guidance on the 'generation' teaching, making it flexible enough to pressure people into joining now, while allowing us a way out when it inevitably fails."
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  Apostate lies are NOW fulfilling BIBLE PROPHECY 😅

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new study article 28 watchtower that has just been published on jw.org is about apostate lies and introduces new concepts in their effort to compat apostasy in the congregations.

  so despite the loosening of their recent disfellowshipping rules their fight against apostates is still raging hard.

  according to the foreword of this article, they will concentrate on :.

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  They could have written a much shorter version of that article. One line, even:

  "Your obedience is more important than whether or not we say something that is wrong."
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I doubt he would care. As long as they are available for the occasional photo op or video clip, he will be happy.