Rattigan350: There is nothing special about them.
Well, sure... we know that now. Back then, we thought they were going to heaven and that this was the bestest thing possible.
yeah so got invited this year and just thought what a waste of my time no one partakes in the wine or bread the talk has been the same for 20 years i would rather stay home.
Rattigan350: There is nothing special about them.
Well, sure... we know that now. Back then, we thought they were going to heaven and that this was the bestest thing possible.
I still find it humorous to think that God scoured the Earth to find worthy representatives and somehow settled on Joseph Rutherford as the ideal person to do that job.
the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
I think they are mostly concerned with two things: the PR nightmare and the possible legal liability if they backtrack on transfusions. There are people who lost loved ones --including children-- because they refused to allow blood transfusions. My mother faced this issue twice in her life and has been fortunate enough to survive both times. She credits Jehovah with saving her, instead of the doctors and nurses who diligently worked to keep her alive with the difficult burden of not using blood.
How will it look if they finally say that they were wrong about transfusions? It has literally been a life and death issue for decades now, and the backlash would probably go mainstream. And I would imagine that at least a few people would sue them, which would definitely get them more attention of the type they do not want. The blood issue is a minefield for them.
alot of my witness friends were excited sisters can now wear pants and you can say hi to disfellowshiped folks but what about important stuff child molesters in the congregation you need 2 witnesses blood fractions are fine but not whole blood????
607 bce is from the 1880s wrong....anything else?
Witness 007: 607 bce is from the 1880s wrong
Did they really say this? That they are dropping the 607 BCE date?
yeah so got invited this year and just thought what a waste of my time no one partakes in the wine or bread the talk has been the same for 20 years i would rather stay home.
I stopped attending in the early 2000s. In 40 years of attending, I can remember two or three partakers. And one of those was the speaker, who was visiting from either Bethel or another congregation (he made such an impression that I don't even remember his name).
I probably stopped attending before any major changes were made to the speech. To be honest, I doubt I'd even notice the difference. It was a really boring talk most of the time.
Copious amounts of booze were probably involved.
usa politicians in charge of the economy for the past 50 years were too stupid to understand how the economy works.
this just proves my theory, that an education on the top tier universities just sucks and means nothing in the real world, unless its in the stem education.
for 50 years usa had zero tariffs on other countries.
Trump is using the threat of tariffs to force countries to negotiate. This is why there is a constant stream of announcements-- a tariff is threatened, a tariff is applied, a tariff is delayed, a tariff is withdrawn, and so on. I expect this to continue, and for some tariffs to actually be applied --for a short time, at least-- if he doesn't get what he wants.
It's difficult to gauge the long term effects because the US has so much spending power. Other nations apply tariffs to US goods already, in order to try to keep a healthy balance and support their own economies. Trump is trying to find ways to increase revenue while keeping taxes low, which is also the thrust behind the DOGE actions and investigations.
Because these actions are deliberate and not the result of market forces, global markets will likely rebound if/when things settle down. While it might seem that Trump won't ever settle down, he does understand that unstable markets will hurt the Republicans in 2026, so I expect that he will draw back in the early part of that year. Otherwise, Democrats will regain control of Congress, which will give them the ability to slow him down for the following two years.
As for the issue of trust, it is the problem that I have described before-- both parties here have spent decades putting more and more power in the hands of the President, and the last few administrations have shown why this is a terrible idea. Now, every new President starts his term by making a large number of sweeping executive orders and pushing the boundaries of what he can do. Everything Trump does might be completely undone in less than four years. It's insane. Who can operate in this kind of environment??
so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!
if i was god i would have done something .
Yes.
so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!
if i was god i would have done something .
I think "men are gods" is a more accurate phrase.
so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!
if i was god i would have done something .
Witness 007: what kind of diety does this!
A deity who isn't interested in our well-being, or who has a sadistic streak.