Also, you broke the BroCode Law of the Urinal by taking the center urinal when the other two were empty. I know you think you were bonding, but that's definitely not a cool play.
You must promise to do that never again.
Posts by jp1692
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6Getting pissed with Sean and Michael (Hollywood Memory)
by TerryWalstrom ingetting pissed with sean and michael (hollywood memory).
the year is 1983. .
two new james bond films are slated for release, one of which will star the one, the only, sean connery, while the other one sports jolly roger moore.. never say never again vs octopussy, and i am one of the original james bond fanatics--so, how can i possibly miss out on the opportunity to attend the world premiere of connery’s flick?
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Getting pissed with Sean and Michael (Hollywood Memory)
by TerryWalstrom ingetting pissed with sean and michael (hollywood memory).
the year is 1983. .
two new james bond films are slated for release, one of which will star the one, the only, sean connery, while the other one sports jolly roger moore.. never say never again vs octopussy, and i am one of the original james bond fanatics--so, how can i possibly miss out on the opportunity to attend the world premiere of connery’s flick?
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jp1692
Aw, I thought you were going to tell us how you went out drinking with them and got drunk. That would have been a much better story and a happier ending.
"Getting pissed" and "Pissing with" are not the same thing. I feel cheated somehow.
You're in trouble. Rather a let down actually. It left me feeling somewhat, ... empty and drained.
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Hello from Illinois
by Rob206 ini come from a catholic background, but most recently had been with the churches of christ.
i have contacted my local congregation and will be talking with someone tomorrow, hopefully setting a study up for next week.
i want to study scripture, but also want to immerse myself in everything jw publishes.
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jp1692
Rob: What denomination did you guys end up in? Or are you not going anywhere?
Good question.
Personally, I am spiritual but not religious.
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Hello from Illinois
by Rob206 ini come from a catholic background, but most recently had been with the churches of christ.
i have contacted my local congregation and will be talking with someone tomorrow, hopefully setting a study up for next week.
i want to study scripture, but also want to immerse myself in everything jw publishes.
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jp1692
Now you know. You're welcome.
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The Biblical reasoning behind a judicial comitee?
by CitizenofEarth ini was wondering today what i would say if i ever were to be called to a judicial trial in the congregation, and my conclusion was that i didn't really have any biblical defense against it.
so i was wondering what you guys would recommend.
it seems far fetched to me that the bible condones a 1 vs 3 biased trial (where you already have been judged beforehand), instead of one where you have a unbiased judge, a defense and a prosecutor/accuser.
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jp1692
Here is a previous thread on the subject that you may find enlightening and thought-provoking:
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The beard issue
by Ray Frankz inthis is my second topic here.
sorry for this biiig post.
i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.
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jp1692
Just recently I met an ex-Bethelite who had been at the Bethel in Selters, Germany.
He told me that there was a storage room where they kept alcohol for the Bethelites. All Bethelites were explicitly forbidden from telling anyone that came for a tour of the facilities about this secret stash of booze. He added that this was one of the things that really bothered him when he was there and got him to question the religion. (Note that it wasn't that they HAD alcohol, it was that they were to be secretive about it to visitors. The hypocrisy and the putting on of a false image were what bothered his conscience).
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Hello from Illinois
by Rob206 ini come from a catholic background, but most recently had been with the churches of christ.
i have contacted my local congregation and will be talking with someone tomorrow, hopefully setting a study up for next week.
i want to study scripture, but also want to immerse myself in everything jw publishes.
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jp1692
Hi Rob, I greatly appreciate your comment, "The more I learn the better." Just remember that the purpose of education is to learn how to think, not what to think.
So why would you want to "study" with Jehovah's Witnesses. They are a high-control, authoritarian group that uses undue influence and coercion to control and manipulate their members. All Watchtower publications are designed to indoctrinate readers into unquestioning acceptance of their peculiar beliefs.
They demand extreme obedience to the group even over family relationships. You should avoid this group, as well as any and all others that exhibit cult-like behaviors.
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The beard issue
by Ray Frankz inthis is my second topic here.
sorry for this biiig post.
i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.
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jp1692
This is a cult. Doctrines actually do not matter (which is why they can change at any time). Control does.
You have discovered the line between EXPLICIT rules and the IMPLICIT ones by having a beard and writing letters about it to the elders. You have implicitly shown that you think that you know more than they do. But again, it is NOT about knowledge, facts, doctrines or truth.
It is about control. Authority and control.
It's a cult.
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Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World
by Brokeback Watchtower inhe was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.
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jp1692
“Many forms of Government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.” - Winston Churchill
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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?
by cofty inif you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.
just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.
it would be good to show that this is not the case..
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jp1692
Also, the fact that some scientists disagree with details about how evolution may have occurred in no way means they are in disagreement about whether or not it did occur.
This can be a difficult concept for ex-cult members to wrap their head around as they are used to black-and-white, all-or-nothing answers handed down with absolute, unquestioned certainty and the kind of unity which exists only in cults. For example, JWs all "believe" that "the generation" Jesus spoke about is actually an "overlapping generation." There is no room for disagreement or questioning. To do so is to show disunity and apostatize. For true believers, any signs of disagreement are indicative of not having "the truth." So when they see, or hear, rumors that scientists are not in absolute agreement about how things work or how evolution happened, they mistakenly jump to the illogical conclusion that it didn't happen.
This of course is NOT how science works. Disagreements and discourse are signs of a healthy way of moving forward in our understanding of how things are and how they work.
Blind, unquestioning "unity" is evidence you're in a cult.
For anyone wanting to get a better idea of how science really works, I suggest you read Thomas Kuhn's landmark work: The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.
It's fairly accessible even for non-scientists as he examines how science has progressed over the centuries, abandoning incorrect understandings of our world and replacing them with better explanations. (One example is how Copernicus and later Galileo used then well known astronomical evidence to replace the problematic Ptolemaic geocentric explanation of "the universe" with a more accurate heliocentric model of our solar system).
One of my favorite parts of the book is when Kuhn examines the difficulty scientists can face when they have undeniable evidence that their current working model/explanation for a particular phenomenon has flaws, but they don't have a better hypothesis to replace it. The social dynamics of a scientific community can have striking similarities to a religious one when reality clashes with beliefs. The difference is that in a scientific community: questions are welcome, differing ideas and explanations are encouraged and progress is made by crafting explanations that fit the evidence and facts.
We all know (too well) what cults do in comparison: continue to try to force "the facts" to fit existing beliefs.