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  My Father has brandished me with the "APOSTATE" word for talking about the BIBLE!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.

  "don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".

  i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.

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  Uh, who is it that has "negativity toward the truth"?

  Your father doth protest too much, methinks.
  
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  JWs Among the Least Educated in the US

  by jp1692 in

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  september 6th, 2017: a just released research survey shows once again that jehovah's witnesses are among the least educated people in the united states: .

  america’s changing religious identity.

  it is also interesting to note how jws rank in the categories of: income, insurance coverage and homeownership.

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  This just in:

  Why you should seriously consider the merits of a college education:
  
  A 2013 study based on Labor Department statistics showed that Americans holding a four-year college degree made 98% more per hour on average than those without a degree. - (CNN Money)
  
  More recently, according to 2015 data compiled by the Economic Policy Institute, "college graduates, on average, earned 56% more" than those who only have a high-school diploma (USA Today).
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  Education

  by bola in

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  after waking up from the truth about the truth, i have decided to go to higher institution for further studies.

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  Good for you. See a college counselor for most of your questions. But basically, to succeed academically all you need to do is apply yourself, study hard, be disciplined and organized, turn your assignments in on time and don't be afraid to ask your teachers/professors questions.

  I want to study BOTANY in my higher institution, so please can anyone in the board send some PDF files regarding botany to me please.

  The first thing you should to is learn to research things yourself. Google is a useful tool for searches.
  
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  My Father has brandished me with the "APOSTATE" word for talking about the BIBLE!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.

  "don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".

  i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.

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  Stuck, Cognitive dissonance is strong in your father, as it is in most cult members. That's why they stay: they can't admit to themselves they--or their beloved cult--is wrong about anything.
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  Once you've proved the truth to yourself you don't need to keep trying to disprove it...

  by cognisonance in

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  i was told this during my judicial committee (some five years ago) when i brought up concerns i had with the "truth.

  " in addition one of the elders (who was an engineer) said once you've accepted a proof of pythagorus' theorem you don't later start doubting that theorem.

  i thought that argument was a weak analogy then.

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  cognisonance: even mathematicians are reluctant to say something is totally true.

  This is how it is in science. You can never positively and unreservedly prove anything true once and for all time.

  All explanations are tentative based on the idea that we could learn something later that proves us wrong. So who is more humble: religionists or scientists?

  I think the evidence speaks for itself.
  
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  Once you've proved the truth to yourself you don't need to keep trying to disprove it...

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told this during my judicial committee (some five years ago) when i brought up concerns i had with the "truth.

  " in addition one of the elders (who was an engineer) said once you've accepted a proof of pythagorus' theorem you don't later start doubting that theorem.

  i thought that argument was a weak analogy then.

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  How about this: Once you've proved to yourself that JWs absolutely do NOT have "the Truth," you don't need to keep proving it's a high-control, authoritarian cult.

  Been there, done that. Bought the T
  
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  Make Your Excellent Point to a JW, But- Remember, it's a Mind Control Cult.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so i am reading from many that they have an excellent thought-stopper for jw's.

  (remember reasoning from the scriptures used "thought-stoppers?

  )"if you just show them [this scripture or use this logic or expose this problem with the organization], you will shut them down.".

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  That's all really great, balanced advice.

  One of the best take-aways that I got from Hassan's book is this: never discuss doctrine.

  Why not? Because mind-control groups aren't really about doctrines or beliefs. Sure they all have this or that ideology or belief system which they tout as "the truth" but that's just the window dressing. The fact that those beliefs can change and often do change at the whim of the cult leader is proof of that.

  Cults are about one thing: control.
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  JW.org is a real estate and publishing company disguesd as a religion.

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

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  since my awakening i have tried to understand why and how people could continue to believe so blindly in a proven false "religious" cult that has such an extensive and detailed record of scandals, lies and cover ups???

  i've come to the personal conclusion that there are three major reasons.

  i call them the 3 f-ups!

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  Yes it is. And anymore it's not much of a publishing company. That's probably why they're constantly begging for money at every turn.
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  My Story

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this is the first of a multi-part article that tells my story, and how ajwrb got started.. https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/saving-thousand-lives-year-reform-watchtowers-policy-blood-transfusions-part-one/.

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  Lee, thanks for sharing.

  You and I actually spoke on the phone more than a decade ago. At that time you were trying to recruit me into the movement of reforming the org.

  I'm glad you've finally realized the futility of that well-intentioned but hopelessly naive idea.

  Great story. Well written and informative. Many newer ones won't be familiar with the Bulgarian Scandal.

  Thanks for sharing!

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  2018 Special Conventions

  by wifibandit in

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  september 7, 2017 to all congregations re: 2018 special conventions.

  september 9, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 special conventions—instructions for congregation secretaries.

  2018 special convention application.

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  jp1692

  Gotta love this actual quote from the letter:

  “Your congregation has not been selected [but], ... please be assured of our warm Christian love and best wishes.”