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  Faded for almost 10 years and still getting random calls

  by ctrwtf in

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  hi all, just wondering if anyone is in the same boat.

  wifey and i dropped off the face of the jw planet almost a decade ago and still get 3 or 4 visits a year mostly when we are not dressed or expecting visitors.

  it's really annoying because we are both wondering why they don't get the hint already.. we don't want to move because we really enjoy where we live and both have careers that keep us in the area.. i've asked politely that they stop calling but like the "godfather" they keep "pulling me in.".

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  There’s always the nuclear option. Just tell them to get off your fucking porch as you slowly walk towards them in an implicitly menacing fashion. (But don’t say anything explicitly threatening).

  Then watch them shit their pants and run away with their tails between their wobbly legs.

  Again, do NOT lose control or say anything explicitly threatening. Three times people lost their shit on me when I was a JW and I turned around as I was leaving and shut them down. I even called the police on one of them. They blew it with the explicit threat. (Probably they’d been fucked over by this cult, who knows. They were so angry they couldn’t even talk.)

  But if anyone would have down what I advised above even I would have left post haste.

  Intimidate but never threaten. Never.
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  Faded for almost 10 years and still getting random calls

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all, just wondering if anyone is in the same boat.

  wifey and i dropped off the face of the jw planet almost a decade ago and still get 3 or 4 visits a year mostly when we are not dressed or expecting visitors.

  it's really annoying because we are both wondering why they don't get the hint already.. we don't want to move because we really enjoy where we live and both have careers that keep us in the area.. i've asked politely that they stop calling but like the "godfather" they keep "pulling me in.".

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  It’s odd, I was an elder for over two decades and quit going and NO ONE EVER COMES BY.

  I’m technically still “in good standing” and have lived in the same place the last seven years.

  Why do they bug you and leave me alone? Who knows!

  But a likely reason is this: the last time an elder contacted me he said “the brothers” wanted to setup a “shepherding” call on me since I stopped attending.

  I said, “No thanks, but I do have a favor to ask you. Would you and the brothers set up a meeting to help me and [a family member that started shunning me when I quit attending the meetings] reconcile?”

  He said he’d have to ask “the brothers” and would get back to me. That was several years ago.

  I’m still waiting ...
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  Faded for almost 10 years and still getting random calls

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all, just wondering if anyone is in the same boat.

  wifey and i dropped off the face of the jw planet almost a decade ago and still get 3 or 4 visits a year mostly when we are not dressed or expecting visitors.

  it's really annoying because we are both wondering why they don't get the hint already.. we don't want to move because we really enjoy where we live and both have careers that keep us in the area.. i've asked politely that they stop calling but like the "godfather" they keep "pulling me in.".

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  We don't want to move because ...

  Why would you even say that?

  Probably you’re too polite. I get that. If you REALLY want them to stop coming by, next time they do be explicit and clear. Tell them to get the clue and leave you alone.

  You could always write a letter to the BOE and tell them to mark you as a “Do Not Call.”

  
  
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  Understanding Armageddon

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so will armageddon be the biblical one we read about or is it probably going to be a government ban on christians that we will perceive as armageddon?

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  HB: The whole belief thing is rooted in imagination and human yearnings for something better.

  Well said!

  Quit worrying about a mythical fantasy designed to induce fear and controllability.

  It's time to get on with your life. Worry about the things that are real and you can actually do something about!

  jp
  
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  ...and so the shunning begins

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now officially 'inactive' so am no longer chased by an elder a for a report.

  the congregation i belonged to never had much time for me anyway, i said once i could drop down dead in the k.hall and no one would notice.

  so i never expected anyone to be particularly bothered that i wasn't there and they aren't.

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  Phoebe: I'm not surprised, but can't say it doesn't hurt because it does.

  That’s really it. Even when we know it’s coming and expect it, it still hurts to be cut off and shunned by people we care for.

  It sounds like the one sister that “left” for a time probably is still a believer. I say that because she returned and is now shunning you for leaving.

  You might try and remind her of that, but remember her WT indoctrination will cause her to interpret your real, unconditional friendship as “spiritual weakness” on your part.

  Sorry you’re dealing with this. It sucks to find out that we’ve invested time and emotion into people that can’t return the same unconditionally. But you have learned some important things about yourself and what kind of person you are.

  Now you have the opportunity to make real friendships and find people that love you for WHO you are and not WHAT YOU (pretend to) BELIEVE.
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  Im new to the site. 28 years old, over 10 in exile. This is my story

  by Jayk in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.

  when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.

  father and mothers family are both witnesses.

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  Welcome Jayk, there are many pathways to recovery and healing after leaving a cult. The journey is long, hard and often difficult. There are many obstacles along the way. There is no one way that works for everyone and no clear roadmap. It can be very lonely at times because essentially it is a solo endeavor to find one’s way in life.

  What often helps is hearing about the journeys of others, and that is us here.

  Learn from us-the mistakes we’ve made, the victories won and the lessons learned.

  And as Paulo Freire says, “We make the road by walking.”

  It sounds like you’re already well on your way.
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  Bethel Dwelling Manual (2004 Edition, 2012 Printing)

  by thebrokenkite in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a peace offering to those recently questioning if i'm undercover, though new conspiracies may surface.

  ;) please excuse the ongoing construction of the site and enjoy!.

  http://thebrokenkite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/dwelling-together-in-unity.pdf.

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  jp1692

  Interesting. Thanks!
  
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  Can all 7 members of the Governing Body ride in this elevator at the same time?

  by Alfred in

  1. social
  2. physical

  in case the picture didn't load.... i'm referring to an elevator with a (quite common) weight capacity of 1,500 lbs.. would the 7 members of the governing body exceed this weight limit??

  david splane: 195 pounds.

  stephen lett: 205 pounds.

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  Wake-me: What I'd give to see those puppies jiggling in slow motion.

  Ahhhhh, my eyes, my eyes!!!
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  Stranger Things on Netflix

  by Cimarrona in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i've been knee deep in this netflix series "stranger things," which is a science fiction show about a group of adolescent friends in a town where a government lab has been doing experiments.

  it took me like a year to get around to watching it.

  but so glad that i finally started.

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  Great show. Keep watching. It gets even stranger ... well, what did you expect!
  
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  How much in total do you think the W.T.S has payed out in child abuse cases??

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they have settled a lot out of court with gagging orders both ways so we will never know how much was payed out there.but some have been made public.

  any ideas how much in total?.

  karter

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  A lot. But not enough.