Found this interesting... Anyone else want to take a gander:
http://www.psych.org/pnews/97-04-18/cult.html
It's from the American Psychiatric Association. Notice how the Scientolgists managed to get hold of CAN. It's in the first few lines.
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Anticultists, APA & Margaret Singer
by proplog2 inmargaret singer is one of the favorite "experts" of those who like to paint with a wide "cult-accusing" brush.. anyone who speaks against singer is labeled a "cult-apologist".
if you don't know about margaret singer do a search on google.com using the following words margaret singer & apa .
apa is the main professional association of psychologists.. please be warned.
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Anticultists, APA & Margaret Singer
by proplog2 inmargaret singer is one of the favorite "experts" of those who like to paint with a wide "cult-accusing" brush.. anyone who speaks against singer is labeled a "cult-apologist".
if you don't know about margaret singer do a search on google.com using the following words margaret singer & apa .
apa is the main professional association of psychologists.. please be warned.
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Found this interesting... Anyone else want to take a gander:
http://www.psych.org/pnews/97-04-18/cult.html
It's from the American Psychiatric Association. Notice how the Scientolgists managed to get a hold of CAN. It's in the first few lines.
Smudgee
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Why be so judgemental....
by jerome ini just got through reading a thread based upon a statement from happy man.. from his post i gather that he is still an active jehovah witness.
and thinks that the good in the organisation outweighs the bad.. -----------------------------------.
why is it that when someone comes here for the first time or that when someone says something that is pro-watchtower the members of this board decend apon them like a piece of meat thrown into a kennel full of hungry dogs?.
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I don't know. I didn't. Guess I'm just gullible. Too many head games on these boards and I hoped to leave that shit behind when I left JWs. Maybe it's time for me to check out of here as well.
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Why be so judgemental....
by jerome ini just got through reading a thread based upon a statement from happy man.. from his post i gather that he is still an active jehovah witness.
and thinks that the good in the organisation outweighs the bad.. -----------------------------------.
why is it that when someone comes here for the first time or that when someone says something that is pro-watchtower the members of this board decend apon them like a piece of meat thrown into a kennel full of hungry dogs?.
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Okay, folks. I feel like I just got played here. So much so that I went back and edited my remarks.
Jerome, JT: Don't talk to me right now. I'm pissed. Don't e-mail me, either.
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Why be so judgemental....
by jerome ini just got through reading a thread based upon a statement from happy man.. from his post i gather that he is still an active jehovah witness.
and thinks that the good in the organisation outweighs the bad.. -----------------------------------.
why is it that when someone comes here for the first time or that when someone says something that is pro-watchtower the members of this board decend apon them like a piece of meat thrown into a kennel full of hungry dogs?.
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I came back here to edit my remarks because I thought this was a genuine discussion. Now, I just feel played...
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anti-Borg bumperstickers
by target ini saw a bumper sticker today that said " i was betrayed by the baptist foundation and aurthur anderson".
got me thinking.
a good bumper sticker gets read by a lot of people.
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I wouldn't mind having a sticker that says
JWs are APOSTATES
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'Apostate' or something better???
by Latte indear all,.
i desperately feel that the grand title of apostate applies no more to ex jws than it does to the whole of active jws.. therefore, i am asking for some sort of alternative title for the wonderful people who post on here.
the word apostate strikes fear in the average dub.
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On whether or not to use apostate...
I don't like the term. Someone mentioned that other religions use the term and he/she is correct.
I'm not apostate. I'm a person of conscience.
Smudgee
"I'm really not a black heart; I'm just smudged a little."
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Apostate Literature
by YoYoMama inis it possible after researching the net on jw beliefs, background and reading apostate information that a jw would still research the bible and find watchtower teachings as truth?
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There's a second part to my above comment but the UPS man came knocking on my door... When I questioned my ex-husband about the WTBTS being affiliated with the UN and being an NGO, he said,"You've been reading that damned apostate crap on the net, haven't you?" So much for throwing pearls to swine. I was verrry tempted to say, "Gee, you have been too! Goodie for you!"
I had so much inner turmoil after I left JWs because I still believed that they had the "Truth." I was attending another church and their ever-present cross bothered me. So my initial research that led to my eyes ultimately being open about the WTBTS was on the Roman cross/torture stake. Found out the WTBTS lied about that and floodgates of curiosity opened. Know the old adage, "Faithful in little, faithful in much"? After my research on that, I became resolved to question everything and everybody (at least in my mind -- can't go around pickin' fights, ya know.)
Smudgee
"I'm really not a black heart; I'm just a little smudged is all"
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Apostate Literature
by YoYoMama inis it possible after researching the net on jw beliefs, background and reading apostate information that a jw would still research the bible and find watchtower teachings as truth?
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You know, I tried to talk to my still-JW sister about this very thing. I found that I have to put little tidbits at a time out there for her to mull over. For instance, she had no idea that WTBTS was once a UN-NGO. She was shocked. But I didn't elaborate; in fact, I changed the subject completely. She did say that at least JWs were part of an organization that adjusted its views when necessary, "as the light shines ever brighter". I know what you're thinking -- I thought it, too! But I was a good girl and kept my mouth shut... Afterall, the WTBTS admit they're wrong?! Never!!
I think knowing when to talk about it and when to leave it alone may lead to her exit yet. We'll see.
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Therapy suggestions.......
by flower inok as those of you who know me know i'm a little wacky since my exit from the borg.
i've decided that its a little more than can be solved with just this board so i'm calling in the pros.
hopefully they can just do some type of operation and remove this borg chip that is still implanted in my brain.
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Flower,
Funny thing is that I have friends who work in the field of mental health and they have many JW's come to them with the same problems over and over again. They seem to think that there should be a study of the occurrence of depression and suicidal tendencies in JW's...
I went to therapy and it helped. It didn't help as much as reading Ray Franz's books, but it helped me to determine just how much time I wanted to spend in pain and anger (zero) over my family cutting me off. (I wasn't disfellowshipped. I just became inactive and disillusioned. But I broke the tie, nonetheless.) I would recommend therapy... Take care of yourself.
A Note to Victor and WonderWoman: Such really excellent advice, the both of you!! Kudos to you!