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  Why was Rutherford sent to prison?

  by Alfred in

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  well that was 93 years ago so well probably never know all the facts.

  but the wt claims that russell and others were falsely accused of sedition.

  the may 9, 1918 new york times article that covered these arrests and sedition charges states that they were charged with spreading doctrines calculated to promote unrest and disloyalty among the men of the army and navy.

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  I thought it was for bootlegging....

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  There is too a hell

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  2. child-abuse

  there is too a hell, and it is for children.. this thread is dedicated to all children who have been mistreated.

  this is for those of us who were not jw's and for those of us who were.. for posting stories, personal experiences, poems, articles and songs dedicated to this subject, i start this thread.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxysi5y-xoq.

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  They have a Dateline NBC on tonight about children being bullied by other children and how they react. Often children that are abused become easy targets for other kids that like to bully. It should be interesting if you have kids and may help you talk with them about how to handle it.

  Snoozy..

  It's on at 6 pm KSDK in the midwest
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  There is too a hell

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there is too a hell, and it is for children.. this thread is dedicated to all children who have been mistreated.

  this is for those of us who were not jw's and for those of us who were.. for posting stories, personal experiences, poems, articles and songs dedicated to this subject, i start this thread.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxysi5y-xoq.

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  I have a facebook friend in Hawaii...

  I wonder if she could find him? Take a picture?

  Where at in Hawaii? Do you have a name you can message me?

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  KNOW ANY GOOD THOUGHT-PROVOKING MOVIES?

  by stillAwitness in

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  2. friends

  what movies have you seen go so hand in hand with the wt to the point where you can use its storyline to explain to somebody what it is like being a jw.

  i used the movie "the island" with scarlett johnassen to explain it to a workmate.

  she completely understood what it is like being a jw it after i made the comparison.

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  Soylent Green......(The only alternative they see for the future )

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  Counting Time

  by Amelia Ashton in

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  2. friends

  i tried to do a minimum 30 hours a month field service.

  however, if we had only been allowed to count the time of "the actual conversations" we had with householders at the door i wonder what the real figure would be?.

  i think mine would easily have been less than 1 hour per month.

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  Fatfreek wrote:

  in the old days (the 50's) we used to do what I would consider the tough territories in order to get our hours -- street work walking, standing on street corners, calling on business managers. I don't ever recall have break times until the 70's. Now, it's telephone calls -- a group sitting at a table with one telephone between them, mall witnessing -- a group sitting and waiting, internet witnesses in certain forums. All seeming to make it easier and less effective. Len.

  After reading this, I couldn't help but wonder what field service (door to door) is like now. I wonder if people still even open their doors?

  There is no way, with me living alone at my age, that I would open the door to strangers at my doorstep.

  I wonder if it is hard to find anyone that does open their doors?

  Snoozy

  Any newbies here that have been in service recently?
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  What Doctrines or JW Views Did You Not Find Too Believable?

  by minimus in

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  the thought that a loving creator would violently destroy anyone not belonging to the jehovah's witness religion including billions of babies seemed just not right.. the fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange.

  you could recieve a blood fraction but you couldn't give it.. any others you can think of?

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  Little Imp, that is too funny! Almost unbelievable for a grown up to act that way. Sometimes you just have to wonder if they truly can believe any of it themselves, surely they have to find that funny..surely!!!

  I was surprised when I learned that you had to hand in a monthly report of time spent knocking on doors. Seemed very Big Brother.

  Before we met my husband had attended meetings relating to assisting on a quick build. However, they then decided that as he did not hand in a report he wasn't allowed to help with the build.

  Snoozy..
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  What Doctrines or JW Views Did You Not Find Too Believable?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  the thought that a loving creator would violently destroy anyone not belonging to the jehovah's witness religion including billions of babies seemed just not right.. the fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange.

  you could recieve a blood fraction but you couldn't give it.. any others you can think of?

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  Another thing I remembered was them telling us women that we would have to choose our husband over our children. They often gave the example of a flood and we could only save one it would have to be our husband and to let our children drown. (Yes they said that). I always figured it is a mothers instinct to save the children!..

  They argued that for the sake of the family line the husband could make more children..

  Never could go along with that...they carried that headship thing a little to far..

  And then we have the Org telling the women that they should stay with a abusive unbelieving mate because he may someday change and join her. They were encouraged to pray to Jehovah for strength to do the right things to turn their unbelieving mates around. I am sure many abusers did join, it was a religion after their own heart!

  So you should :

  Pray for the flood to stop (In flooded area's)

  Pray for the brothers and sisters in the hurricane areas

  Pray that others come into the "Truth"

  Pray to endure any persecution that may come upon them

  But in the prayers you are only allowed to pray for the strength to stand whatever problems you may face.

  Kind of a personal pep talk..

  Eventually I started wondering if anyone would listen to their prayers?

  Then I was sure no one was listening.

  Now after being out for a long time I am finally getting some spiritual feeling back..they almost ruined it all for me.

  Snoozy
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  Charles Taze Russel nephew of William Huntington Russell

  by truth.ceeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this correct?

  charles taze russel, an alleged free mason was the nephew of william huntington russell, the creator of the skull and crossbones, the americna version of the illuminati.

  kinda makes sense that the apple wouldnt fall from the tree..

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  Negro Masonic Hall
  U.S.National Register of Historic Places
  Location:	3615--3619 Dr. Martin Luther King Blvd., St. Louis, Missouri
  Coordinates:	38°38′49″N 90°13′37″W ? / ? 38.64694°N 90.22694°W ? / 38.64694; -90.22694 Coordinates: 38°38′49″N 90°13′37″W ? / ? 38.64694°N 90.22694°W ? / 38.64694; -90.22694
  Area:	less than one acre
  Built:	1909
  Architectural style(s):	Romanesque
  Governing body:	Private
  Added to NRHP:	April 15, 1993
  NRHP Reference#:	93000262 [ 1 ]
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  Charles Taze Russel nephew of William Huntington Russell

  by truth.ceeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this correct?

  charles taze russel, an alleged free mason was the nephew of william huntington russell, the creator of the skull and crossbones, the americna version of the illuminati.

  kinda makes sense that the apple wouldnt fall from the tree..

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  List of "SKULL AND BONES" members in 1900's can be found here:Sorry I can only cut and paste links can't make it a clilckable link..

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Skull_and_Bones_members#1900s

  Interesting to see that George H. Bush's nickname was "Magog"..didn't the witnesses used to talk about that a lot? (Gog and Magog) They seem to have gotten away from disgussing it now. Wonder why?

  Anyone know if they still bring it up in studies?

  The list is pretty interesting, people you would never dream of being members of "Skull and Bones".

  Snoozy

  RE: GOD AND MAGOG:

  It is important to recognize that the Gog and Magog of Ezekiel 38-39 is quite different from the one in Revelation 20:7-8 . Below are some of the more obvious reasons why these refer to different people and battles.
  
  1. In the battle of Ezekiel 38-39, the armies come primarily from the north and involve only a few nations of the earth ( Ezekiel 38:6 , 15 ; 39:2 ). The battle in Revelation 20:7-9 will involve all nations, so armies will come from all directions, not just from the north.
  
  2. There is no mention of Satan in the context of Ezekiel 38-39. In Revelation 20:7 the context clearly places the battle at the end of the millennium with Satan as the primary character.
  
  3. Ezekiel 39:11-12 states that the dead will be buried for seven months. There would be no need to bury the dead if the battle in Ezekiel 38-39 is the one described in Revelation 20:8-9 , for immediately following Revelation 20:8-9 is the Great White Throne judgment (20:11-15) and then the current or present heaven and earth are destroyed, replaced by a new heaven and earth ( Revelation 21:1 ). There obviously will be a need to bury the dead if the battle takes place in the early part of the tribulation, for the land of Israel will be occupied for another 1,000 years, the length of the millennial kingdom ( Revelation 20:4-6 ).
  
  4. The battle in Ezekiel 38-39 is used by God to bring Israel back to Him ( Ezekiel 39:21-29 ). In Revelation 20, Israel has been faithful to God for 1,000 years (the millennial kingdom). Those in Revelation 20:7-10 who are rebellious are destroyed without any more opportunity for repentance.

  (Surely they still preach this?)
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  Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.

  however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.

  does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?

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  Cyber, I couldnl't have said it better!

  I found offensive the term Jehovah's witness and the Terms Kingdom Hall. Jehovah is a bad translation of an ancient Horrible God. They didnt witness anything other than the fact than an Idiot who call himself Judge used that name as a markenting campaing. That empy windowless box they attend that call Kingdom Hall belongs has no real King and no Kingdom.