I just went to your site ( www.jwfacts.com) and noticed that the article on JW's celebrating Wedding anniversaries is no longer there? Am I just not finding it or is it gone? If so do you have any idea what site may have info on it?
Thanks, Snoozy
i just went to your site ( www.jwfacts.com) and noticed that the article on jw's celebrating wedding anniversaries is no longer there?
am i just not finding it or is it gone?
if so do you have any idea what site may have info on it?.
I just went to your site ( www.jwfacts.com) and noticed that the article on JW's celebrating Wedding anniversaries is no longer there? Am I just not finding it or is it gone? If so do you have any idea what site may have info on it?
Thanks, Snoozy
in the past, i've tried reasoning with my wife concerning the reading of religious materials to our children but the reasoning is not getting through.
she believes that since my oldest daughter prefers church to the kingdom hall (no surprise) that in order to provide any kind of 'true' religious instruction she must read wt material geared to the kiddies.
in the past, i reasoned that if she insists on reading material to her that will ultimately trash my way of life then i could do the same.
Then you're very probably home free. Who do kids listen to in late primary school and their teens - their own age group or their parents
"You're gonna die if you don't come to the JW religion" has a pretty strong pull for anyone..teen or not. Even if they don't believe it , there is always a "What if" thought in their mind that may not go away! Doesn't matter if it is true or not!
It's like going to a fortune teller..you don't really believe and know it is mostly nonsense but ,you still hang on every word she says and "Wonder"..
Snoozy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42900991/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/?gt1=43001.
ah, well .... "to one who has faith, no explanation is necessary.
to one without faith, no explanation is possible.".
I don't have any faith it ever happened either..nice publicity for the government that is in so much trouble tho isn't it?
Operations can do a wonderful job of making someone look like someone else and documents can be changed so DNA matches..there is no way I would ever believe he has been caught..heck, they can't even catch Fred McLean the JW child rapist, what makes you think they can catch Bin Laden..
Snoozy..who doesn't believe half of what the government says and has serious doubts about the other half..
it was a beautiful, sunny day.
i was in the supermarket doing an early morning shop when i see an old friend of the family, a jw sister.. she asked me if i'd gone to the memorial and i told her no.
she said that the end is so close what with all the earthquakes and brother truthseeker, you need to come back to jehovah otherwise you will die and so will your children.
She asked me if I'd gone to the Memorial and I told her no. She said that the end is so close what with all the earthquakes and brother Truthseeker, you need to come back to Jehovah otherwise you will die and so will your children. She said this with tears in her eyes.
Because I know this sister and she is a friend I didn't say anything. I did get an invite to the special talk. I've read about people here having conversations like this, and until today I didn't really give it much thought, but to be told you and your children will die if we don't serve the Watchtower God is deeply disturbing.
So?..the right answer would be "What a horrible thing to tell someone!!!! Is something wrong with you?"
You are a friend and yet it didn't bother her to tell you that you are going to die? Why do people think they have to take that kind of talk ..the JW's aren't made of porcelin, they won't break. Speak up and defend yourself. Tell them that there is seriously something wrong with someone that would tell another human being that..and she needs to reread her bible without the WTBTS telling her how to interpret it. They use scare tactics to keep their people in line ..just like any other cult! Tell it like it is..if someone can tell me something like that you better be sure they will hear something back! No one is telling me ( or my kids) something like that without a reaction, a strong one. They will think twice before throwing the "I love you and don't want to see you destroyed" plea on me! I hope your kids weren't in earshot of her beating up on you (with tears in her eyes ).they will take your silence to say that she was right...
Snoozy..
in the past, i've tried reasoning with my wife concerning the reading of religious materials to our children but the reasoning is not getting through.
she believes that since my oldest daughter prefers church to the kingdom hall (no surprise) that in order to provide any kind of 'true' religious instruction she must read wt material geared to the kiddies.
in the past, i reasoned that if she insists on reading material to her that will ultimately trash my way of life then i could do the same.
The way I see it is that the JW's throw a bigger hissy fit and win the right to ruin their kids lives. Is that how it works?
There is no way I would ever ever let someone read any JW literature to my child. My kids read the "Paradise" book when they were young and to this day (they are in their 40's and 50's) and still have nightmares about the ground opening up and killing them. I should sue the Wtachtower society for that! Even one of the neighborhood girsl that often sat in on the studies has the nightmares..those books are NOT meant for children! If you allow it you are as guilty as she is of child endangerment and abuse!
It's a shame that your wife can control the situation because of her threats..where is your daddy spine?
It's too late for my kids but it's not too late for you to give your kids a normal life and free of all that horrible crap they peddle ..you will regret it if you don't. I feel you are just taking the easy way out. Giving in and hoping for a good outcome..it doesn't work that way.
Snoozy..JMO...
jeremiah 13:23 can an african change skin?
can a leopard get rid of its spots?
so what are the odds on you doing good, .
Snowbird said:
Imo, this vouches for the authenticity of Holy Writ.
I am finding this more and more about the bible..I find It hard to believe a lot of it!
Snoozy..
jeremiah 13:23 can an african change skin?
can a leopard get rid of its spots?
so what are the odds on you doing good, .
"CAN THE ETHIOPIAN CHANGE HIS SKIN?"
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We answer, No. But all will admit that what the Ethiopian cannot do for himself God could readily do for him. The difference between the races of men and the differences between their languages have long been arguments against the solidarity of the human family. The doctrine of restitution has also raised the question, How could all men be brought to perfection and which color of skin was the original? The answer is now provided. [R3320 : page 53] God can change the Ethiopian's skin in his own due time.
Prof. H. A. Edwards, Supt. of Schools in Slater, Mo., has written for the public press an elaborate description of how Julius Jackson, of New Frankfort, Mo., a negro boy of nine years, began to grow white in September, 1901, and is now fully nine-tenths white. He assures us that this is no whitish skin disease; but that the new white skin is as healthy as that of any white boy, and that the changed boy has never been sick and never has taken medicines. Realizing that his story would be doubted, he interested Dr. F. A. Howard, chief division surgeon of the Chicago and Alton Ry., who corroborates the statement in the following published extract from a letter:
"I am obliged to you for an opportunity of seeing and examining the negro child, Julius Jackson.
"I found his heart action, respiration and temperature perfectly normal and his mental faculties seem acute for one of his age.
"The white skin now covering at least 90 per cent. of his body is, so far as I am able to judge, in full possession of all its organs and those organs seem to be performing their natural functions--no roughness, chalky, or ashen appearance is present.
"It seems to me that the conditions warrant your opinion--the change is certainly caused by chemical conditions of the blood. Very truly,
"F. A. HOWARD.http://www.biblestudents.com/htdbv5/zwt0345.htm
("Spinoff from:)http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/209845/1/how-would-you-interpret-this-wt-cover
I like the way they say NO and then proceed to give an example of it happening supposedly....
Snoozy
1983 yearbook p11.. the puerto rico branch tells about an interested person who was studying with a special pioneer but whose husband showed no desire to do so.
one day his five-year-old daughter said, "daddy, i want to grow up so i can be baptized.
" later she said, "daddy, please study the bible with jehovah's witnesses so that you will not be destroyed and then you can be with us in paradise.
Wonder what they are thinking now almost 30 years later?
Snoozy
I found this:
http://www.biblestudents.com/htdbv5/zwt0345.htm
"CAN THE ETHIOPIAN CHANGE HIS SKIN?"
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We answer, No. But all will admit that what the Ethiopian cannot do for himself God could readily do for him. The difference between the races of men and the differences between their languages have long been arguments against the solidarity of the human family. The doctrine of restitution has also raised the question, How could all men be brought to perfection and which color of skin was the original? The answer is now provided. [R3320 : page 53] God can change the Ethiopian's skin in his own due time.
Prof. H. A. Edwards, Supt. of Schools in Slater, Mo., has written for the public press an elaborate description of how Julius Jackson, of New Frankfort, Mo., a negro boy of nine years, began to grow white in September, 1901, and is now fully nine-tenths white. He assures us that this is no whitish skin disease; but that the new white skin is as healthy as that of any white boy, and that the changed boy has never been sick and never has taken medicines. Realizing that his story would be doubted, he interested Dr. F. A. Howard, chief division surgeon of the Chicago and Alton Ry., who corroborates the statement in the following published extract from a letter:
"I am obliged to you for an opportunity of seeing and examining the negro child, Julius Jackson.
"I found his heart action, respiration and temperature perfectly normal and his mental faculties seem acute for one of his age.
"The white skin now covering at least 90 per cent. of his body is, so far as I am able to judge, in full possession of all its organs and those organs seem to be performing their natural functions--no roughness, chalky, or ashen appearance is present.
"It seems to me that the conditions warrant your opinion--the change is certainly caused by chemical conditions of the blood. Very truly,
"F. A. HOWARD."
Can the Ethiopian change his skin?? ?What the Ethiopian cannot do for himself God could readily do for him. The difference between the races of men and the differences between their languages have long been arguments against the solidarity of the human family. The doctrine of restitution has also raised the question. How could all men be brought to perfection and which color of skin was the original? ... a negro boy of nine years, began to grow white in September, 1901, and is now fully nine-tenths white." Watchtower 1904 February 15 pp.52-53
Do you have a scan of that ?
Snoozy