On June 23rd of this year I will also be celebrating "my decade."
Congratulations to you and your wife. You've all come a long way.
my wife and i actually started to fade a little in 1997, but 1998 in january was our last attended meeting.
i gave a talk at the service meeting and looked out at all these people i knew were phony, listened to what i was saying and knew it was all lies and realized i never got over the change in the generations change in 1995 and had gone downhill from there.
i got off the stage, and the meeting ended and i got the typical pat on the backs for a good talk they never listened too anyway.
On June 23rd of this year I will also be celebrating "my decade."
Congratulations to you and your wife. You've all come a long way.
i think somethings fishy.
they're now saying that she died as a result from falling and hitting the roof of the car.
now, i saw pics taken a few seconds before the attack, and she was sticking out 3 feet tops.
I don't believe she is dead. She could have faked her own assasination. This is the woman who "exiled" herself to avoid facing charges for the theft of millions from the public till.
But if she is dead, everyone saw it coming, including this administration. How could they feign ignorance about it now?
it is immigration that explains the vast majority of the increase.. who is it that immigrates?
the poorest of the poor, the desperate ones that would be dead from starvation or execution by gangs/guerillas within 5 years anyway.
these were not the ones being converted in their home countries - when you have to work 14-18 hours a day, 7 days a week just to feed your family, there is no time to "study", attend meetings, go out in field servce, etc.. so, they go to their new country.
Absolutely. I used to note this all the time in the congregation that I had attended. The increase was purely due to immigration. I can only think of 1 family, in 20 plus years, that came in from door to door work. The congregation that my mom now attends continues to grow with Portuguese speaking immigrants from Brasil and parts of Africa, not so much from Latin America anymore. Even among Hispanics the congregations don't seem to grow as much as they used to. The kids are being raised here in the US and they leave once they reach a certain age.
as witlesses, you always hear about christmas in a negative light.
all the running around to get gifts that will be returned the day after, the bills that come in january, the drinking and driving, and all the energy "wasted" on christmas lights and the headaches they get listening to christmas carols all day.. there is a good side of christmas, independent of the religious aspect of it.
i remember when i was little, i most looked forward to the gifts.
I just can't get into it.......... I've been out going on 10 years now and for me personally I just don't enjoy the season. I've tried.
I guess the JW indoctrination since birth took a very stong hold in me. You can't miss what you never had right?
my sister-in-law is recently divorced and went to a witness online dating site.
she mentioned that many of the witnesses specified that they wanted a white or latino only.
of course there is nothing wrong with this (personal preference), but i found it interesting.
So now let's ask the reverse: as a person of color, would you date a caucasian?
Unfortunately, my experiences with whites have never been positive. In general, I'm not attracted to white men, and I don't think they have ever found me attractive either (I'm mixed caucasian/black/indian).
hey guys, long time from me and no topics (yup moving is a pain).
i'm sure no one really remembers but at my last postings i was mentioning that my wife was pregnant.
well now i'm the proud poppa of a beautiful 2 week old baby girl.. this of course brings complications, my mother is still an active jw and surely chomping at the bit to bring my daughter (did i mention she's beautiful) to show off to all her meeting friends.. of course i don't want my daughter exposed to this, so i came up with a tactic i would like everyone's opinion on.
Hi Tuesday
I'm sorry if I don't know all the details of your situation. I dont visit here as often anymore. I see that you put a lot of time into the questions that you intend to posit to your mom.
Are you and your wife active, fading or DF/DA?
Is your mom going to babysit your child on meeting days? Otherwise, why would your mom bring your daughter to the Kingdom Hall? Are you trying to not sever ties or cause friction with your mom due to your status (assuming that you're fading)?
If the latter is true, I have to say that is not the best way to do it. Your child's safety will be compromised. Remember being taken into the backroom for spankings? Don't think grandma wont do that to your daughter, especially if she's done it to you when you were little.
Don't assume that a baby that is mere weeks old won't get spanked. I've seen that done too.
I tend to strongly agree with No Apologie's first post on this thread.
i know i am, or at least now i'm finally willing to admit it.
when making future plans, i still have "jehovah's day" in the back of my mind.
i never caught myself doing that until fairly recently, and i just realized that it was holding me back in many ways.
See what happens to me is that I make a goal and then I sort of consciously/unconsciously set a time line for when "the end" should be here, so my goals end up somewhat short-sighted. It's a habit for me to think this way but I didn't realize that until recently. I've been out of the org for almost 10 years! I wonder what's up with that and what I should do about it.
i know i am, or at least now i'm finally willing to admit it.
when making future plans, i still have "jehovah's day" in the back of my mind.
i never caught myself doing that until fairly recently, and i just realized that it was holding me back in many ways.
I know I am, or at least now I'm finally willing to admit it. When making future plans, I still have "Jehovah's Day" in the back of my mind. I never caught myself doing that until fairly recently, and I just realized that it was holding me back in many ways. How about you?
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
It's a complicated issue.
Whether it's been legal or not, abortion has been around since the beginning of time.
Do you know how many children are in the foster care system right now in your state? Here in NYC the child caseworkers themselves have become foster parents, boldly breaking their agency rules. Talk about taking your work home with you!
How many well to do couples really want to adopt a 14 year old black or latino child with developmental disabilities? When they think "let's adopt", they are looking for that cute blue eyed baby. Granted, there are exceptions, but.........
My mind has never changed about abortion. Agree with it or not, it's a difficult decision and whatever you choose, the consequences are with you for the rest of your life.
1) reebok high tops with the tongue hanging out, and tight cuff jeans behind the tongue.
(any one want to start at fav 80's jeans thread??
don't make me bring up my tight levis with comb sticking out of my back pocket to comb my leif garrett feathered hair style).
I was an LA Gear and Candies shoe fan in the 80s