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reproach and loyalty

by zev in

reproach and loyalty.

consider the following points from the publishing house in brooklyn

ny, usa.

somebody

zev,

Sickening what low levels that the WBT s will go to HIDE their own evil.

Personally I hate the phrase, Jehovers earthy spirit directed visible organization or anything of the sort.

Sorta like the s ociety telling their loyal followers that satan engages in "spiritual bacteriologic warfare" and that by attending meetings, they won't be leaving themselves open for such attacks. It makes me wonder how many hours writers up at the printing plant spend coming up with these phrases.

I guess if I were living in such a place, I'd love to have that job!

peace,

somebody

10

Jesus, Pharisees, and JWs

by somebody in

jw
friends

i was reading a little bit of the greatest man who ever lived book today and when i began to read chapter 85 ( searching for the lost ), something was crystal clear.

i read this:.

" the pharisees and scribes treat common people like dirt under their feet.

somebody

lol@Carmel

I'm reading the Greatest Man book because more than one person on this board told me that reading that book made them realize that they needed to leave the JW cult. They could see that they were not imitating Jesus at all by serving the WBTS after they read it. I think it's bizarre that the WBTS wrote a book that actually helped some of their own followers leave them! HA! Maybe that's why they rarely disperse any spiritual food about Jesus anymore.

Anyhoo..... I'll accept that subscription to MAD magazine! thanks!

peace,

Christ somebody

Edited by - somebody on 1 August 2002 19:17:57

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Jesus, Pharisees, and JWs

by somebody in

jw
friends

i was reading a little bit of the greatest man who ever lived book today and when i began to read chapter 85 ( searching for the lost ), something was crystal clear.

i read this:.

" the pharisees and scribes treat common people like dirt under their feet.

somebody

Hi all,

I was reading a little bit of the Greatest Man Who Ever Lived book today and when I began to read chapter 85 ( Searching For The Lost ), something was crystal clear.

I read this:

" The Pharisees and scribes treat common people like dirt under their feet. In fact, they use the hebrew expression `am haa'rets, "people of the land [earth]," to show the disdain they have for such ones. On the other hand, Jesus treats everyone with dignity, kindness, and compassion."

The first thing that came to my mind was what I read in one of the Kingdom Ministry rags printed by the WBTS INC.

In the 5/99 Kingdom Ministry:

"Some of the food vendors in the convention facilities being used are now demanding that they be allowed to open their food stands and serve the delegates attending our conventions. If this were permitted, many "worldly" people would be mixing in company with us during the day."

I could see how much the JWs are taught to imitate and act just as the Pharisees.

that's all for now folks. :-)

peace,

somebody

Edited by - somebody on 1 August 2002 21:15:55

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DID YOU EVER RAT ON SOMEBODY???

by minimus in

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friends

the congregation was always being told to root out any person who was engaged in wrongdoing.

if it was a best friend or even a family member, you were to inform the elders so that they could look into the matter and investigate any possible sin.

the elders pretty much told the brothers that those knowing of a sin and not reporting it were as guilty as the person that actually sinned!

somebody

No...I never ratted anyone out.

zev,

you are THE cutest! {just ask me} :)

I know you could have ratted me out in 1980 when I saw you. I didn't hide what I was doing that rated being handed over to satan for. I figured that at that point, you must have known that I was done viewing and serving a printing factory as being my master.

peace,

somebody

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Wait on....

by Farkel in

nothing helps a religion weasel out of the hot seat better than a good arsenal of "back door" words.

the ultimate "back door" expression invented by the watchtower printing corporation is "wait on jehovah" and the purpose of this post is to examine that expression with a microscope.. this expression is always brought out and touted when things are totally screwed-up in watchtowerworld.

"we have a major problem with covering up and enabling pedophiles and expelling the children who are raped by them.

somebody

Farkel,

I don't know how WBTS followers cannot see the points you made! They all speak the REAL TRUTH!

Guess what Michal's punishment was for being a "slave-girl" who showed "sarasm"? ( her picture, portrayed by the WBTS, is shown in the portion of the article zev posted.....Thank you, zev)

Care to guess what vulpine example the WBTS used for those who do not "wait on Jehovah"/keep supporting them? anyone?

peace,

somebody

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"Shepherd the Flock" book.

by Bosho in

hey,.

i'm relatively new here and wondered if any ex-elders (or indeed anyone who knows) could tell me what's so secret about the "shepherd the flock" book.. what is in that book that they don't want ordinary publishers to see?.

i haven't met an elder yet that can give me a good answer as to why it's kept so quiet.. any help would be gratefully received.

somebody

here ya go. http://www.geocities.com/Elders_Book/2index.html

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

somebody

What has the GB to show as credentials?
LOTS.

LOL

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

somebody

Jehovah simply hasn't confronted them yet.

Christ has not confroted them, yet.

YouKnow,

Do you belive in the twinity?

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WHY DO JW'S USE MORE OLD TESTAMENT THAN NEW?

by minimus in

jw
friends

every book that is published, every magazine written ,highlights the hebrew scriptures as opposed to the greek.do you think it's because most christians stress christ's words and jw's need to be different?

somebody

You Know,

Since they were without dispute the very foundation of Christianity, and they liberally used the Hebrew text, how is it that Christendom considers it as relatively insignificant, even producing abbreviated versions of the Bbile that only contain the NT and Psalms?

Please tell me if you agree with the following:

what is implied by arguing that the Mosaic Law is still in force? In effect, this constitutes a repudiation of faith in Jesus Christ. Why is that so? Because such a view rejects the fact that Jesus fulfilled the Law, thus paving the way for God to terminate it. To persons who professed to be Christians but who were swayed by arguments in favor of keeping the Law, or some portion of it, the apostle Paul forcefully wrote: You are parted from Christ, whoever you are that try to be declared righteous by means of law; you have fallen away from his undeserved kindness.

we cannot earn salvation no matter how hard we work. No salvation from sin and death would be possible without the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Thus eternal life is a gift from God through Jesus Christ, an expression of extraordinary undeserved kindness and not payment for our works.

Do you agree with this or not? This requires a yes or no answer because I'm really asking if you agree that Jesus fulfilled the mosiac Law thus paving the way for Jehovah TERMINATING it, or if you believe that keeping it or keeping any "PORTION OF IT", by believing in holding Christians to it.

peace,

somebody

Edited by - somebody on 22 July 2002 22:47:23

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JW response to 23,720

by ChristianObserver in

found this posted and thought it should be brought to the attention of members ......... "from: [email protected] .

i have since had a chance to look into this matter.

the numbers are way off beam and appear to have been exaggerated by someone.

somebody

"From: Mattetria@aol.com
Message-id: < [email protected]>

I have since had a chance to look into this matter.

[email protected] obviously read and quoted what the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Inc. faxed over to the Panorama Reporter or show. This person used the same excuses in justifing the Publishing companys supporting NO protection for JW children. My guess is that [email protected] is a publisher for the publish company, and reading the WBTS exuse is what he or she considers to be looking into the matter.

Thank you and Ill visit that discussion board on aol.

peace,

somebody