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A Witness Response to Our Disassociation

by Princess in

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i received this email on saturday from [email protected] .

good job eh?

your father pulled your mother out now u and your husband or out .

somebody

Princess,

First,,,congratulations on the freedom of your family!

good job eh? your father pulled your mother out now u and your husband or out
so now u all will be destroyed? lol have your present and temporary future
fun kiddies its sad but its like of indepedent man/woman

This person has e-mailed many of us here on the board so we all now for sure that he has been lurking here for at least a year. And I love what he said and that you shared his words with us. He doesn't realize that he helps in exposing the WBTS as a liar. What he said proves that this, from what the WT tell the public on it's media site, is just another lie to decieve the public:

Do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?

No. ................... Moreover, Jesus said that we should not be judging one another.

What Greg said was that your family is "out" and because of that, your future will be tempory. You will be destroyed now because you are "out". And we all see that he takes pleasure in this judging of you and your family by his "lol".

BTW....Zev and I got a kick out reading and looking at the pictures from you and your husbands last meeting! I LOVED the shirt too!

peace to you and yours,

somebody and zev

P.S. I'm sorry for the quoting and bolding being messed up. I'm STILL trying to figure that stuff out!!!

Edited by - somebody on 14 January 2003 7:50:59

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Another Little One.....

by Sentinel in

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just stopped by to let you know that we now have grandchild #4, two weeks early.

our second grandson, nicholas keith, born jan. 10th in lexington, kentucky, at 12:44pm, weighing 7 lbs.

15oz., and 21 inches, with very light brown hair.. needless to say, we can't wait to see him!

somebody

Congratulations!

Make sure you spoil him.

Post some pictures when you get them if you can!

peace,

somebody

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Meat in Due Season - December KM Available

by Stephanus in

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just finished uploading it:.

http://jsefton.users1.50megs.com/kmscans.htm.

follow the link to the december 2002 issue.

somebody

By killing all disobedient humans, presumably. Why "wholesale"?

The phrase 'wholesale desires" made me laugh. What the heck are wholesale desires anyway? Cheap desires?

I noticed too that the literature being offered this month is all "192 page books published prior to 1988". Are they being told to spread old good news from door-to-door? Are they actually going to ask for donations for it? One major teaching that was still being taught prior to 1988 is that "the bible says that the generation of 1914 will by no means pass away" before armageddon arrives. That was a repetative in most of the liturature. Does anyone out here have or know which books ( even if you know of only a few) were 192 pages and published prior to 1988? Something sounds odd. Why prior to 1988? Why do they want to offer certain old books ?

Thank you both Stephanus and dmouse for your work.

((((((((((Stephanus))))))))))))

I'm so sorry for the loss of your daughter. I can't say that I know your pain, because I've never lost a child to death, but my thougths are with you at this time. And one more hug for ya. (((((((((Stephanus)))))))))))

peace to you,

somebody/gwen

Edited by - somebody on 13 January 2003 18:17:20

Medical coverage for C.O.s&D.O.s

by somebody in

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hiya all !

would any former elders out here happen to have a copy of any of the letters that the society sent out to the congragations asking for money/ donations to cover the costs of medical coverage for c.o.

thanks in advance,.

somebody

hiya all !

Would any former elders out here happen to have a copy of any of the letters that the society sent out to the congragations asking for money/ donations to cover the costs of medical coverage for c.o.'s and d.o.'s?

thanks in advance,

somebody

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Belching Gun on Fitzwater Case

by AlanF in

the following material is far more than a smoking gun -- it's a flash picture of a gun belching fire.

in connection with bill bowen's las vegas news conference today, bill released the following documents to the public: .

http://www.silentlambs.org/fitzwaterscan1.

somebody

He has been accused of child molesting but he denies it.

Notice how well the Watchtower Society's "aggressive policy against child molesters" works to protect children in their own congregations?

From the Watctowers media site:

"When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15)"

Watchtower followers will continue to follow and adhere to the Watchtower's rules at the cost of how many childrens' lives?

peace,

gwen

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Whoring Around !!!

by zev in

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it has been aledeged by a jw on the aol boards that the wtbts does not use the word "whore".

first thing i thought when i heard this is, "oh yes they do, i heard it said from the stage at assemblies"!

well a quick search of their cd-rom brings a host of references to the great "whore".

somebody

lol@Tom

Good day all,

The her referred to is the symbolic religious whore , Babylon the Great, which embraces all the religions of the world,

This would have to mean Jehovah's Witnesses too then. They do claim to be a relgion. The only true religion of this world.

peace,

gwen

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Whoring Around !!!

by zev in

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it has been aledeged by a jw on the aol boards that the wtbts does not use the word "whore".

first thing i thought when i heard this is, "oh yes they do, i heard it said from the stage at assemblies"!

well a quick search of their cd-rom brings a host of references to the great "whore".

somebody

Even though I'm a whore of of a different sort, this is what the JW on the aol board said that influenced zev to research the subject. I'm quoting what what the JW said...leaving his or her name out for privacy purposes. This JW was accusing a nonJW as having a "penchant" and not telling the truth. This JW was telling the non-JW that he or she was a liar .

Out of the mouth of an active society worshipper who has never paid attention to what the society has fed him or her.

"You seem to have a penchant not telling the truth. Jehovah's Witnesses do not use of the term "Whore" anywhere in their recorded literature dating back over fifty years which tells me that you were never a Jehovah's Witness."

peace,

gwen....... who went out from among the bad whore.

Edited by - somebody on 1 January 2003 18:47:33

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open marriages, anyone have experience?

by Pierced Angel in

well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.

i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.

it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).

somebody

Joel,

That is just SO sad!

Thanks for warning others by your painful experience. I can't help but to think about the kids.

I enjoyed meeting you and Pierced Angel. It's too bad things did not work out. But as you said, for that kind of a relationship to work, both partners have to want such a marriage.

peace to you,

somebody/gwen

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Is it me ???

by somebody in

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o hearer of prayer, even to you people of all flesh will come.psalm 65:2.. jehovah god is the king of eternity.

who can pray and be heard?

approaching the king eternal.

somebody

Gopher,

I'm really starting to believe they are a (gasp) cult. I was hesitant to use that term because it gets a bit overused (like the word "genius") but really the amount of control they seek to exercise, even over ex-members lives, is ludicrous.

I hesitated for years to use that term too. I thought it was a harsh word. And to this day, I still believe it is if you are talking to a cult member. Cult members never want to hear the word cult. If any word will push them away, that's that word!

So for people I've talked to who I knew were in cults over the years, I've refrained from using the word, even though it is no longer a harsh word to my ears. I don't view that word the same as I used to when I was a member of a cult.

peace,

gwen

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Is it me ???

by somebody in

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o hearer of prayer, even to you people of all flesh will come.psalm 65:2.. jehovah god is the king of eternity.

who can pray and be heard?

approaching the king eternal.

somebody

Thank you all for your input and thoughts, and thank you waiting for yours! I'm happy that you'll read it and speak what you think when you read it.

I did notice that the word the society was playing with just to be safe for "outsiders" to read was the word "believers". So somehow, even know this JW tried to avoid telling the truth as far as what the watchtower teaches "believers" to be, I got it out of her/him. She or he is ps83187 in this conversation. Please do not e-mail or give this person a hard time for his/her honesty. Do not e-mail or try and contact the person. If any of you do and mention this, you'll make them more paranoid to speak the truth about the views of watchtower followers.

OnlineHost: *** You are in "Life - JehovahGodIsMostHigh". ***
ps83187mil845: hi jp
JPinkChick04: i see ya'll ridein them bikes
JPinkChick04: n one time one of ya'll rna into a poll mad funny
GWEN MARIE W 3: Anyone here a Jehovah's Witness?
Elusive4: I am
ps83187mil845: yes gwen
GOODLIVN32: i think it was paradise
GOODLIVN32: i seem to remember the knowledge book too
Elusive4: Do you remember Good?
GWEN MARIE W 3: what is a "believer" according to your belief? Is it a fellow Jehovah's Witness? I hope you don't mind me asking.
Elusive4: ok
Elusive4: how long ago was all of this Good
GOODLIVN32: oh man....um
GOODLIVN32: 92-95 i think
GOODLIVN32: somewhere in there
Elusive4: ok
ps83187mil845: a believer is anyone who has accurate knowledge of Gods word
GOODLIVN32: gwen...believers are definitely other jw's
ps83187mil845: and follows and applys what it says
GOODLIVN32: hence non jw's being called "non-believeing husband"
GOODLIVN32: and such
Elusive4: So Good whats up now?
GWEN MARIE W 3: So a JW married to someone whio is not a JW but has accurate knowledge of God's word is a beliver too?
GOODLIVN32: elusive...what do u mean
GOODLIVN32: gwen...nope
Elusive4: What are you doing now
GOODLIVN32: as to bible study u mean??
Elusive4: like are you active in another religion
GWEN MARIE W 3: GOODLIVIN, are you a JW?
ps83187mil845: what is accurate knowledge to you gwen?
Elusive4: or just searching
GOODLIVN32: gwen...sorry
Elusive4: or what?
GOODLIVN32: not a jw
GOODLIVN32: im an active christian
Elusive4: ok
GOODLIVN32: i do not belong to any denomination
GWEN MARIE W 3: roger. I want a JW to answer me without trying to evade my question but they won't. such as ps is doing. can any JW in here be honest with me? please?
ps83187mil845: gwen....what does john 17:3 say?
Elusive4: what is it do you want Gwen
ps83187mil845: l am not avoiding your ?
GWEN MARIE W 3: ps....will you please answer my question without a question? can yiou anser me with a yes or a no?
GOODLIVN32: gwen...if ur question is whether a person is necessarily a 'non-believer' just cuz they are not a jw
Elusive4: So Good you dont go to any church or anything like that?
GOODLIVN32: they are not
GOODLIVN32: but jw's still call them that
GOODLIVN32: elusive...i go to lots of churches
Elusive4: ok
GOODLIVN32: i love the perspective i get from different opinions
GWEN MARIE W 3: here is my question worded differenly then. If a JW is married to a non-JW....are they married to a believer? check yes or no. :-)
Elusive4: Interesting Good
ps83187mil845: according to scripture.....no
GOODLIVN32: check no gwen
Elusive4: no they are not married to a beliver
GWEN MARIE W 3: I understand what you are saying GOOD, I just need an anwer from someone who is one.
GOODLIVN32: gwen...jw's believe only they are true christians...therefore if u believe u will be one of them
GWEN MARIE W 3: ok...thank you ps. and thank you GOOD>
GOODLIVN32: simply put
GOODLIVN32: