previous: my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. .
how many times have people said ?if i knew then what i know now??
what a difference that would have made to my life.
Thank you so much for sharing so much ofyour life with us, Simon ( and Angarad). I know that typing all of it out can be VERY emotional. I got emotional reading much of part 2.
I've been waiting patiently...well...maybe not THAT patiently for part 3. I've been checking the board all day! LOL
I remember you on wit.net back in the day!
peace,
somebody/gwen
i have been lurking here for some time and enjoy everyone's comments.
since the jan 1 wt has been out, i have not seen the latest worldwide report.
would it be possible to post a scanned image here somewhere or email it to me?
I too would like the latest statistics on how many "anointed JWs remain to make up the remnant" of the 144,000.
I wish the graphs included that!
i thought my mom would never change, that she'd never really go along with the shunning, but last night she wouldn't let me stay to eat at their house when my dad made dinner.
my parents and i have been close all our lives, we've been through a lot together and for her to say that she has to be getting a lot more counsel from the elders.
she is being guilted into shunning me, hoping it will help me eventually come back to the truth.
And although jgnat might not like this { hi jgnat :-) I'm waving at you..can ya see me? :-) }, Lutice, please print this out and ask your mom to read it. even if you have to mail it to her.
jgnat reached into every thought I think we ALL had as Ex-jWs, and always forced ourselves not to think about as JWs.
I thank you jgnat, for telling what you did. It helps more than you know. And if you don't want me sharing your intense post with others, just say the word and I won't from now on unless I have your permission first.
peace,
gwen
if anyone has his/tom's e-mail address or has kept in touch with him, can you please send me a pm?
Thank you, AlanF.
I appreciate this.
if anyone has his/tom's e-mail address or has kept in touch with him, can you please send me a pm?
If anyone has his/Tom's e-mail address or has kept in touch with him, can you please send me a PM?
did your process of leaving the organisation and learning new stuff feel like growing up to you?
looking back at your time in the so called "truth", do you think you were misled or even "naive"?
even "innocent"?
Ballistic,
You asked and said::
Did your process of leaving the organisation and learning new stuff feel like growing up to you? Looking back at your time in the so called "truth", do you think you were misled or even "naive"? Even "innocent"? Do you think it is just the result of having your eyes opened to something that makes it feel that way? Or do you think there is a real process going on here?I feel as if I could have written the same thing on looking back on my life in being raised a JW. I had the same thougths and I asked MYSELF the SAME questions that you have asked here. I could never understand anyone "going back to the hall" either. For me, it was like a child going back to believing that there really is a Santa Claus. Once you grow up even to the age of say....6 or 7, your natural thougths are that there isn't and you face reality no matter how much you really wish Santa existed. Comparing that with what you said, I did look at leaving the borg and facing real life as growing up. I knew that "going back to the hall" was not going to help me grow up and live life in reality, nor could I have sat there and listened to make -believe land, no more than a child can "go back to believing" that Santa Claus really exists. But even coming to that conclusion took me quite a few years. It takes a long time to grow up! ;-) peace, gwenSometimes when people post those "going back to the hall" threads, this is the perspective from which I cannot understand it one bit. Once you have had your eyes opened, you cannot un-learn what you know, or return to innocence.
if the wbts inc have done anything, they have insutled men just as they have insulted women.
while they implied that women are evil and always trying to induce man into evil, they have implied that men's brains are in their genitals.
in that that view, the wbts are part of this world.
I guess men were created to follow the lead and not take the lead in certain circumstances in life. If there is a female around, then being the HEAD brings on a whole different meaning!
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can't find it through the normal searches on the 2001 cd (gee, i wonder why...).
thanks in advance!.
It does not matter what was PRE 1980's. Family ties have ALWAYS been broken in a cult such as the WBTS INC. because what they teach INISIDERS is opposite than what those INSIDERS will turthfully admit to outsiders. Just as adherents to any other cult will do.
if the wbts inc have done anything, they have insutled men just as they have insulted women.
while they implied that women are evil and always trying to induce man into evil, they have implied that men's brains are in their genitals.
in that that view, the wbts are part of this world.
If the WBTS INC have done anything, they have insutled MEN JUST AS they have insulted WOMEN. While they implied that women are evil and always trying to induce man into evil, they have implied that men's brains are in their genitals. In that that view, the WBTS are part of this world. And the ole COWS AND BULLS article should speak volumes.
I think all you men should speak up !
prefatory note .
(to watch tower reprints wtb&ts 1919) .
the watch tower is unique among all the publications in the world.
If you read the WBTS INC' s "spiritual food at the proper time", Jesus returned twice already. In 1914 and again in 1918. ( and that isn't counting the year 1918 when Jesus actually did something! ) This is what "it" has been feeding it's followers since way after "it" changed it's mind about 1874!
If Jesus' return means "parousia", then that would mean that Jesus keeps returning and then disappearing,again and again. For his invisible return is supposed to happen for at LEAST a third time in the future, according to the corporation with special insight into advanced knowlegde that no one else has.
peace,
somebody
