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I'm very sorry for smiling, but not quite. you just have to laugh at these things in life! for these annoyances which are a very part of life's natural stresses can get to a person's personality.

peace,
somebody

100

The Watchtower's Official Explanation of the Scand

by Kent in

[h3]here is the watchtower's official explanations on the un scandal![/h3.

the letter is, naturally - on the watchtower observer as well!.

yachyd da.

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shifting responsiblility!

I noticed that the very first sentence of the letter to the Branch Committee shows NO repentance or responsibility by the WBTS. :

"Because of published allegations by opposers that we have secret links with the United Nations....."

They KNEW they were to SUPPORT the ideas of the U.N. back when they registered. "Opposers" had nothing to do with that. It was THEIR action! And they knew just what they were doing. That is the reason why from 1991 onward, they published articles SUPPORTING the U.N. from 1991. They made it an INTENTIONAL POINT to publish just a few articles in the 10 years so that they had something to show the U.N. to PROOVE that they were in SUPPORT, and ALIGNED with, the United Nations' ideas. The wbts perhaps did not have" secret links" as they so decietfully worded in their letter, but they certainly "secretly" and decietfully supported the U.N. and all that it stands for, behind their own follower's backs.

Are the WBTS repentant or sorry for what they did? Or are they trying to blame "opposers" for their own faults and decietfullness being publicly exposed? Are they taking responsibility for their own actions? Did opposers force them to register with the NGO with the STIPULATION that they support the U.N., so as to use their library? Of course not! And have the WBTS admitted that they knew all along for the TEN YEARS that they were supporting the ideas of the "digusting thing" that they were doing just that by the articles they printed/published? NO! They would rather place the blame on others and claim that others are trying to discredit them! They will not admit fault and they will continue to use the lame excuse of " We didn't know! The registration forms changed. We only needed to use the library card to inform out brothers of world events!" How stupid that is when JWs are DISCOURAGED from reading "wordly" material to keep up with "worldly" events. The WBTS KNOW that they could have subscribed to newpapers from around the world if their only only motive was to inform brothers of worldy events! They could have subscribed to the newspapers and hade them delived/mailed to NY and PENN. They could have subscribed to newsletters sent out by the U.N., NGO, and DPI. Did they do that? NO! They could have avoided having any association with the U.N. if they chose to. THEY chose not to subscribe to the newsletters with the latest updates about the world. Instead, they CHOSE to just go ahead and align themselves with what they consider the digusting thing mentioned in the bible. If they thought there was nothing wrong with doing so, then they would not have hidden it until they were publicly exposed.

Just to proove that the wbts are evil, take a look at what happened to badwillie and his wife! If it were no big deal and it was nothing more than an innocent mistake by the WBTS, then elders would not be publicly reprooving people who talked about it to friends or others!

And here are some quotes from the WBTS that they should heed their damned selves!

AWAKE! 9/22/96
HOW often today do you hear someone say, 'I'm sorry. It was my fault. I am totally responsible!'? Rarely is such simple honesty heard anymore. In fact, in many cases, even when a fault is admitted, every effort is made to shift the blame onto someone else or onto extenuating circumstances over which the wrongdoer claims he had no control.
2/1/95 watchtower
Whose Fault Is It?
When problems come up, do you quickly blame others? Or do you analyze the situation to see whose fault it really is? In daily life, it is so easy to fall into the trap of blaming others for our mistakes and to say, "It is not my fault!"
When something goes wrong in our lives, we will not immediately follow our ancestors Adam and Eve and say: "It is not my fault!" Instead, we will ask ourselves, 'What could I have done differently to have avoided this unhappy outcome? Did I exercise good judgment in the matter and seek counsel from a wise source? Did I give the other party or parties involved the benefit of the doubt, imputing dignity to them?'
AWAKE! 9/8/98
We must understand that while God acknowledges that the Devil can sway our actions and bears a large measure of responsibility for mankind's sinful condition, this does not relieve us of our own personal accountability. Thus, Romans 14:12 says: "Each of us will render an account for himself to God."
However, if we "abhor what is wicked" and "cling to what is good," we can achieve victory over evil. (Romans 12:9, 21) The first woman, Eve, failed to do that and was punished for her disobedience; she could have resisted and obeyed God. (Genesis 3:16) However, God did not ignore the role the Devil played in deceiving her. The Devil was cursed and condemned to eventual annihilation. (Genesis 3:14, 15; Romans 16:20; Hebrews 2:14)Soon we will no longer have to contend with his evil influence.-Revelation 20:1-3, 10.

How much influence does the WBTS have on it's followers so as to publicly humiliate them in front of their own fellow members? Enough influence to tear families apart from those who look to God's word vs. the WBTS's word?

mad and angry,
somebody

22

New Baby

by hippikon in

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lyall james was born at 12pm today @ 8.1 lbs.

mother is doing fine.

bubs is in the icu with a breathing problem but should be fine.

somebody

congratulations hippikon! Beautiful name was given to him too.

peace,
somebody

102

Jon passed away this morning

by jonjonsimons in

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my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

somebody

Kevin,

Thank you for visiting us for the time that you have, and thank you for sharing JonJon with us all.

I hope that time heals the pain of your loss, but that time never fades your memories of JonJon.

peace to you my friend,
somebody

30

JW & SUICIDE CASES

by bj in

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i need all cases that you know about.

if possible, names and dates.

if you have newspaper articles, photos, court cases, web-reference, would be glad to learn about them.

somebody

I know of one JW who committed suicide. His name was Spiro Pipper and it was back in....1975 or 1976. I belive he was living in Florida at the time. He had closed his carpet cleaning business here in Rhode Island and moved. He left behind a wife and one daughter. Someone out here on the board perhaps knew him after he moved from Rhode Island and possibly can give you more info.

peace,
somebody

96

Email to my Dad on the UN / Prison Stories

by msil in

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ok......it has taken me lots of soul searching to put this post up (it contains some facts i dont really feel all that comfortable putting up).

but i will try and leave out here for as long as i can.. it is an email i have sent to my dad.

it is a followup - he has some of the info on the un already.

somebody

Haereticus,

I just want to say that I'm sorry for what you had to endure too. I'm happy that you and msil are here with us today. And I hope you both stay.

peace,
somebody