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  JW child molester, Rick McClean, to be profiled on America's Most Wanted

  by SixofNine in

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  2. child-abuse

  april 15, i believe.. and for anyone who knew rick mcclean, the fbi could really use your help.

  (i can get you the proper number, if you pm me).

  link to a thread with details on mcclean: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/106553/1.ashx

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  I searched the AMW website and see nothing about him on the site.

  I'll watch it anyway though.

  peace,

  somebody/gwen
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  I'm engaged!

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  zev proposed to me today and we are now engaged to be married.. i can't even put into words the condition i and my heart is in except for two words.

  joy happiness.

  i just wanted to share this moment with you all.. .

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  Thanks for the more congrats and well wishes! Harold thanks you all too!

  Here are a few more parts to the background of Harold/zev. I'll post my one short bio when I'm finished with zev's 9 part ( zev has alwaqys been a man of few words. This part of his life was an exeption for sure! ) He was going through pure agony, as many here have been through. I thank Simon and Angarad for taking the time and energy for running this board and keeping it going for years, through both good times and happy times. It has given SO MANY of us a place to pour out our hearts just when we needed it the most, and then some. I never ever forget that. ok...I'm getting off track again ( hey..I never said that I was a woman of few words! )

  So back on track, here are the links to the background on zev/ MY harold.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/22347/1.ashx

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/22395/1.ashx

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/22481/1.ashx

  peace and thank you to all,

  somebody/gwen
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  I'm engaged!

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  zev proposed to me today and we are now engaged to be married.. i can't even put into words the condition i and my heart is in except for two words.

  joy happiness.

  i just wanted to share this moment with you all.. .

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  Dismembered, ( nice hat by the way. ) I told zev what you said to tell him.

  Here is part one of the story of zev. For those who don't know this, zev and I were pre-engaged to be married back in 1979, but it never happened. It just wasn't the right time for us I guess. but it is now!!! Read here for some background. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/22299/1.ashx

  Thank you all again for your well wishes.

  peace,

  gwen
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  I'm engaged!

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  zev proposed to me today and we are now engaged to be married.. i can't even put into words the condition i and my heart is in except for two words.

  joy happiness.

  i just wanted to share this moment with you all.. .

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  Thank you all for the congrats!

  I will try and link a little bit of background later today, for those who wish to read. Thanks for the idea just2laws!

  Hubert,

  Yes, we'll have to get together sometime soon!

  peace,

  somebody/gwen
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  I'm engaged!

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  zev proposed to me today and we are now engaged to be married.. i can't even put into words the condition i and my heart is in except for two words.

  joy happiness.

  i just wanted to share this moment with you all.. .

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  Zev proposed to me today and we are now engaged to be married.

  I can't even put into words the condition I and my heart is in except for two words.

  JOY HAPPINESS

  I just wanted to share this moment with you all.

  peace,

  somebody/gwen
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  Videos of the Godly Obedience Assembly right here!

  by PaNiCAtTaCk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have another clip begging brothers to reach out.

  looking at the newspaper and its bad news he knows he can do more again because we are so close to the end.

  this sight they are uploaded to will only host for 7 days so hurry and download.

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  peace,

  somebody

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  Any radio geeks here?

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for those of you who are interested in radios for a hobby, you are welcome to go here http://www.freeboards.net/index.php?mforum=letstalkhobbies& if you want to discuss building and operating radios and or building your own beacon.

  zev started the forum not to take away from jw discussion here, but to discuss his own hobby and to put one topic in it just for me.

  anyone who are mates of admitted radio geeks are welcome too.

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  For those of you who are interested in Radios for a hobby, you are welcome to go here http://www.freeboards.net/index.php?mforum=letstalkhobbies& if you want to discuss building and operating radios and or building your own beacon. Zev started the forum NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM JW discussion here, but to discuss his own hobby and to put one topic in it just for me. Anyone who are mates of admitted radio geeks are welcome too. I love that Zev created the forum and I'm happy that he has a hobby and can freely spend his time enjoying himself!

  So if any of you radio geeks wish to talk about radios and compare notes and experiences, feel free!

  I hope I'm not breaking any board rules or board manners by posting this. If so, my appoligy !

  peace,

  gwen
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  Fear of God

  by Satanus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the beginning of wisdom?

  or, a sign of ignorance?.

  first of all, the standard christian and jw definition changes the meaning of fear to respect, like a person respects the power of gravity.

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  LittleToe >>>>>"Love" is the bottom line, as seen in the teachings of Jesus, the two greatest commandments, etc., etc. Has man learnt this particular lesson well enough to progress further? Sadly, I think not, and unfortunately much of his religion epitomises this fact..."

  SO TRUE. That one emotion called LOVE is not so hard to feel, as it is to show, LittleToe. And when people are taught to not show it even when they do in fact feel it, it causes PAIN to everyone who loves.
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  What does your name MEAN?

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all are identified by our names here on jwd.

  some use their real names, and others pick a moniker that is their nickname or perhaps a few words from a song they like.. why did you pick your name?.

  for instance,.

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  I got my name from "The Jerk". It's a movie with Steve Martin ( who plays Navin) in it and this is his reaction when he sees his name in the phone book. Here is a tiny bit of the script, in case any of you have never seen the movie ( I think the movie came out in the 70's, if I remember right)

  Navin Gee Mr. Hartounian! Gee Mr. Hartounian!

  (a phone book delivery truck drives up)

  Navin Oh, my God! (Navin takes the book.) Thank you.

  (he rips through the book, looking for something)

  Navin The new phone book's here! The new phone book's here!

  Harry Well I wish I could get so excited about nothing.

  Navin Nothing? Are you kidding?! Page 73, Johnson, Navin, R.! I'm somebody now! Millions of people look at this book every day! This is the kind of spontaneous publicity, you're name in print, that makes people. I'm impressed! Things are going to start happenin g to me now.

  :-)

  peace,

  gwen
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  W.T. quotes about "visible" and "invisible presence" of Jesus 2nd coming?

  by hubert in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  i would like to find where the watchtower said in their books that jesus was coming "visibly" to inspect all religions in 1918-1919. .

  and, i am looking for the quotes that say he "came, but invisibly" after they realized that he didn't come at all, and what proof they give for that statement.. thanks...hubert

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  Ditchy Elle,

  Thank you for the reference! Here is somethign a little more recent also, that goes along with what you provided.

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  w89 4/1 pp. 11-12 Hear What the Spirit Says to the Congregations ***

  )"After 96 C.E., Jesus did not ‘come’ in any significant way until he was enthroned as King in 1914. (Acts 1:9-11) Then, in fulfillment of Malachi 3:1, he ‘came’ again in 1918, when he came to Jehovah’s temple to judge first the household of God. (1 Peter 4:17) He will ‘come’ once more, in the near future, when he "brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus."—2 Thessalonians 1:7, 8; Matthew 24:42-44.

  And here is what the WTS says Parousia means:

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  Multiple Articles ***

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  Pointedly, pa·rou·si´a means "presence." Vine’s Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says: "PAROUSIA, . . . lit[erally], a presence, para, with, and ousia, being (from eimi, to be), denotes both an arrival and a consequent presence with. For instance, in a papyrus letter a lady speaks of the necessity of her parousia in a place in order to attend to matters relating to her property." Other lexicons explain that pa·rou·si´a denotes ‘the visit of a ruler.’ Hence, it is not just the moment of arrival, but a presence extending from the arrival onward. Interestingly, that is how Jewish historian Josephus, a contemporary of the apostles, used pa·rou·si´a.

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  The meaning "presence" is clearly borne out by ancient literature, yet Christians are particularly interested in how God’s Word uses pa·rou·si´a. The answer is the same—presence. We see that from examples in Paul’s letters. For instance, he wrote to the Philippians: "In the way that you have always obeyed, not during my presence only, but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation." He also spoke of abiding with them that they might exult "through [his] presence [pa·rou·si´a] again with [them]." (Philippians 1:25, 26; 2:12) Other versions read "my being with you again" (Weymouth; New International Version); "when I am with you again" (Jerusalem Bible; New English Bible); and "when you once more have me among you." (Twentieth Century New Testament) At 2 Corinthians 10:10, 11, Paul contrasted "his presence in person" with being "absent." In these examples he plainly was not speaking of his approach or arrival; he used pa·rou·si´a in the sense of being present. (Compare 1 Corinthians 16:17.) What, though, about references to Jesus’ pa·rou·si´a? Are they with the sense of his "coming," or do they indicate an extended presence?

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  Spirit-anointed Christians in Paul’s day were interested in Jesus’ pa·rou·si´a. But Paul warned them not to be ‘shaken from their reason.’ First there must appear "the man of lawlessness," which has proved to be the clergy of Christendom. Paul wrote that "the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs." (2 Thessalonians 2:2, 3, 9) Plainly, the pa·rou·si´a, or presence, of "the man of lawlessness" was not just a momentary arrival; it would extend over time, during which lying signs would be produced. Why is this significant?"

  I have to leave for work, but will continue perhaops tonight.

  peace to you all,

  gwen