our friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
This has been the saddest news. There are SO many of us crying real tears too !!! As tornapart has said, "All JWs can see are angry negative apostates... these are real people, with real pain, real despair.... some like oompa are just hurting too bad to be able to cope with it." . Those words SCREAM the truth!
My heart goes out to his family, and to all of us here who are feeling the intense pain of Eric's passing.
R I P Eric
peace,
somebody
i dont remember the date.
or the year or if it was a district or circuit.
what i do remember is that we rode up with a car full of other female witnesses.
1978 at the Natick Assembly Hall in Natick MA.
just wanted to write a tribute to my best friend whom i lost last week, it was one of the most painful experiences i have ever been through.
i have no children, my puppy was my child.
i got him from a golden retriever rescue organization when he was 2. he was recovering from a car accident, still a bit skiddish, but he chose me to take him home (the foster mom said that he never responded to anyone like he did me).. he was always happy to see me, greet me with a toy in his mouth, he never judged me, never cared whether i was "bad association", he was always there when i needed to smile and remembe that i was not alone in the world.
((((((((((CoffeeHouseGirl))))))))
Many of us know and have experienced your pain. Our dogs who have passed on will forever remain in our hearts.
peace,
somebody
unless i was having one of my pipe dreams, the borg has said that we should only research new publications and articles published by them.. if there's a reference in a watchtower/awake!
article to the tune of this, please can someone post it as well as the reference source?.
cheers,.
I don't think the WTS INC. has said not to read older publications. I think it's odd that it has ENCOURAGED JWs to read older publications but if anyone does read old publications and brings up old teachings from older publications in conversations with their fellow JWs, then they automatically get accused of reading "apostate material" and/ or accused of becoming an apostate. It's happened over and over again to many JWs who brought up old teachings of the WBTS INC. that they've read in older publications. Go figure.
peace,
somebody
thats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.
i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.
he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".
(((((((WLD)))))))) You can never say that you didn't give your marriage your all. Living like you have been for YEARS AND YEARS must have taken it's toll on your both physically and mentally. I think it's time to be HAPPY! I realize it'll be hard at first, but you'll probably be amazed at how peaceful you'll find yourself after the divorce is over and done with. I would take jgnat's advice seriously, and get on with your glorious life.
Your husband said, "I dont plan on staying single long but then that will be up to what you do. " HA! That made me laugh. I mean...really? ! What the heck is that? Is he telling you to have sex with someone so that he can succeed in HIS PLAN not stay single long? That's the way I would have taken it. Unbelievable!
I wish you nothing but the best and most of all, peace and happiness you very much deserve. You've been unhappy for far too long, but I understand why you stayed in the marriage as long as you have. Your children must be grown by now. I hope they are doing well!
peace to you,
somebody/gwen
this is a test to see how retro you are.. do you remember?.
doc bob.
watchtower observer.
this well-reasoned youtube video explains it all.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjm5d9m1lm.
it seems that, in my haste to scrutinize the teachings of the governing body and see whether they are actually in line with bible teachings, i have overlooked one important factor which indicates that they really can be trusted as those "taking the lead" in god's organization..... ...apparently, their weekly meetings sometimes run past 5 o'clock!!
i would like to apologise for any undue criticism i may have levelled at the governing body on this forum or elsewhere.. if i had been aware of the above information, i would obviously have been far more willing to humbly accept their leadership.. .
Damn you King Solomon. You did it again!
"Why,salvation depends on working faithfully as his dedicated slaves!.... By the preaching work today, the antitypical ‘man clothed in linen’—the remnant of Jesus’ anointed followers—is ‘marking’ those who will survive the end of this system."~~~ Watchtower 1/15/89
this well-reasoned youtube video explains it all.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjm5d9m1lm.
it seems that, in my haste to scrutinize the teachings of the governing body and see whether they are actually in line with bible teachings, i have overlooked one important factor which indicates that they really can be trusted as those "taking the lead" in god's organization..... ...apparently, their weekly meetings sometimes run past 5 o'clock!!
i would like to apologise for any undue criticism i may have levelled at the governing body on this forum or elsewhere.. if i had been aware of the above information, i would obviously have been far more willing to humbly accept their leadership.. .
Somebody said:
If we trust the Governing Body, then we would HAVE to admit that we trust in men. And we also would HAVE to admit that we put our trust in UNINSPIRED MEN at that.
Are you trying to go somewhere with that line of apostate logic?
Psalms 146:3 (KJV)
"Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help."
Well, that CLEARLY doesn't apply to the Governing Body, because didn't you hear the tape? They LUV you, they worry about you, and PRAY REALLY HARD for you: sometimes past 5 pm! They're working HARRDD, and it's REALLY HARRDD....
Reminds me of SNL's Will Forte jabbing Bush on the presidential debate
HA! I think I'm in love with King Solomon! :-) That was great!
this well-reasoned youtube video explains it all.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjm5d9m1lm.
it seems that, in my haste to scrutinize the teachings of the governing body and see whether they are actually in line with bible teachings, i have overlooked one important factor which indicates that they really can be trusted as those "taking the lead" in god's organization..... ...apparently, their weekly meetings sometimes run past 5 o'clock!!
i would like to apologise for any undue criticism i may have levelled at the governing body on this forum or elsewhere.. if i had been aware of the above information, i would obviously have been far more willing to humbly accept their leadership.. .
If we trust the Governing Body, then we would HAVE to admit that we trust in men. And we also would HAVE to admit that we put our trust in UNINSPIRED MEN at that.
i don't think i'm more of a spiritual person now..
I've ALWAYS been a spiritual person. If I wasn't, I don't think I would have ever left the JW "organized religion"/cult or otherwise. That hasn't changed since leaving the borg. Being "spiritual" has nothing to do do with religious organizations in my experience. I have two grown children who are now athiest adults and I KNOW that they are spiritual. One more than the other, but they both are spiritual people.
Great question you asked for "reasonable thinking persons" !
peace,
somebody/gwen
