ROFLMAO, you guys are gonna make me wet myself.
Song
i remember years ago after giving a public talk, the sister who was playing the piano had to rush to the front of the hall to get ready to play the opening song for the watchtower study.
what she didn't realize was that her dress was neatly tucked in to her pantyhose for all to see,since she had just come out of the bathroom.
the attendant was trying to literally run behind her to tell her of what she was exposing, but couldn't keep up with her.
ROFLMAO, you guys are gonna make me wet myself.
Song
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that i've had in a long, long long time!
and i blame each and every one of you.. thanks for helping me heal.. craig (of the finally getting some friends class).
Glad to hear it Craig. It's nice to be blamed for something good for a change.
Hugs to you
Song
the ancient goddess barbi:.
historical views from the year 5000. .
we are proud to announce that archaeologists have made a major discovery explaining religious practice in the 1990's, over three thousand years ago!
Viv,
This has made me look at archaeological findings with a giant grain of salt. Funny how we can create stories to suit what we want to have happen.
Hope your feeling better today. I think we were having the same kind of day yesterday.
Blessings
Song
i have been away from the wtbts for about 6 years after being with them for 18-20 years if i count the studying time.
i remember feeling as if i should add a title to my name.
you know like doctors are md's and lawyers are esq.
Thanks all for your responses and support. I was having one of THOSE days yesterday when things were running around in my brain. I have actually had many more good days than I used to which makes the bad days harder to take. I may have to share my story soon to help purge it from my soul.
Viv: Thanks, I do know that being a JW has brought me to where I am today and that I wouldn't be the same person without it. Some days it just feels overwhelming
David: I am a singer and love it. I do know that not having JW family members makes it easier on me than others who were born into it. Thanks for caring
Witchy: Yes I do understand the circle concept. Thanks
Loves: LOL manure. ahh yes the sh*t of our lives from which pretty things can now grow
English: Yes I have found that certain "star quality" from being an ex-jw. Just the shock value is priceless at times.
Animal: What can I say but I luv ya bro.
ISP: It does get better, and the others are right that it does take time. Hang in there.
Ugg: Enjoyed chatting with you last night. Thanks for your support.
Ozzie: Thanks for sharing
Kenpo: Point well taken, looking on the bright side
Blessings to all
Song
Edited by - songmistress on 11 August 2002 14:8:50
Edited by - songmistress on 11 August 2002 14:21:53
((((Viv))))
Somedays just stink. You have permission (like you really need it lol) to do what you need to do and feel how you need to feel. Hang in there.
Blessings
Song
i have been away from the wtbts for about 6 years after being with them for 18-20 years if i count the studying time.
i remember feeling as if i should add a title to my name.
you know like doctors are md's and lawyers are esq.
I have been away from the WTBTS for about 6 years after being with them for 18-20 years if I count the studying time. I remember feeling as if I should add a title to my name. Songmistress JW. You know like doctors are md's and lawyers are esq. Now I feel a bit like I have the title of Songmistress XJW. I want very desperately to get on with my life, but so much of my life was taken up by the borg. For a long time, I truly was a drone. Went along with everything, not questioning anything, stuffing the feelings that something was not right here.
I find myself compelled when I meet new people, to tell them I was once a JW and it comes into my conversations more times than I care to admit. There is a rift with my family that I am having a hard time healing. My family, bless them, seem to be willing to just put it in the past. BTW I was the only JW in my family so there is the guilt of having chosen this lifestyle. No one to blame but myself. Hubby and I moved in separate circles for so long, that we have developed as totally different people. However, we are still together and still desire to be together
I feel fortunate in the fact that I have found some wonderful people out there in the "wicked world" who love me for who I am, and are supporting me every step of the way, as well as wonderful people on this board who do the same, (You know who you are). However, having been a JW feels like a stigma I will have to carry for the rest of my life. Trying to counteract the lack of trust in my fellowman as well as a sense of superiority and arrogence I developed from having been in "the only true religion", I find myself too stuck at times to move on.
I Do Not want to spend the rest of my life being Songmistress ExJW. I want to be Songmistress, human being and all round wonderful person. (shameless request for love and appreciation lol)
So here is the question. Does anyone feel that they have successfully reintegrated into the world, and how did you do it???
the ancient goddess barbi:.
historical views from the year 5000. .
we are proud to announce that archaeologists have made a major discovery explaining religious practice in the 1990's, over three thousand years ago!
The Ancient Goddess Barbi:
Historical Views from the Year 5000
We are proud to announce that archaeologists have made a major discovery explaining religious practice in the 1990's, over three thousand years ago! These discoveries help us better understand the myths and traditions which have been handed down over the years, and still survive today within the popular cult of the Goddess Barbi. This tradition is one of the fastest growing groups of modern-day Goddess worship.
Archaeologists have discovered that Barbi worship dates back to ancient times. Figures of the Goddess Barbi have been unearthed, preserved in nearly pristine state. It seems that ancient worshippers made their images of Barbi in a material known as plastic. It was known at the time that plastic did not decay to the elements over time and was nearly everlasting! Because of this, it is obvious to our research team that those items made of plastic were held in the highest regard by the ancient culture of the 1990's. They surely wanted to preserve these items for eternity!
Research shows that ancient priestesses of Barbi were initiated at a very young age. The initiation ceremony involved a complex litany which lasted several weeks, usually prior to the Winter Solstice. Young daughters would chant at length to their parents, repeating over and over the praises of Barbi, stating their desires for the Goddess to enter their lives. While these chants varied from priestess to priestess, the words "I Want" are common to many of the evocations. Later, after initiation, additional chants focused on a wide variety of magical tools and altar accessories used by the Goddess Barbi in Her temple.
Images of the Goddess Barbi show Her in many aspects. For example, She was portrayed as a Solar Deity in Her Malibu Barbi aspect. This explains the modern-day custom of Barbi worshippers donning colored glasses and anointing themselves with special protective lotions to celebrate the Summer Solstice!
It is known that ancient religions sometimes masked their Deities within the Saints of ancient Catholicism. Researchers are certain this explains the name used for an ancient west coast village known as Santa Barbara, perhaps a Mecca for Barbi worshippers.
Each Barbi figurine also held strange numerical markings, $24.99. This explains the current custom where Barbi worshippers tattoo themselves with this number! It was obviously the number most sacred to the Goddess. The $ symbol was used in many ways by the ancient culture, and was considered both a scourge and salute to religious society.
It was also discovered that ancient Barbi had a consort known as Ken.
Close examination of plastic Ken figures explain why today's modern Barbi worshippers allow only eunuchs to participate in religious rites, with no other males allowed. Since many fewer Ken figures were found, we can assume that the ancient Barbi worshippers were a matriarchal tradition.
Our team of linguistic researchers have determined through study of the ancient language that Ken was renowned in many parts of the world. This explains the origins of ancient places like Kenya, Kentucky and even the variation of Canada. An in-depth study of the Ken mythos also links Him to the ancient clan known as Kennedy. Note the amazing facial similarities!
Stories surrounding this ancient Kennedy cult seem to be a unique mixture of the "slain God" stories (similar to the Egyptian Osiris) and the revelry of the Roman Bacchus. This seems to fit all three aspects of the Triple Kennedy myth.
Other research shows a related figure, an ancient warrior God known as GI Joe. Since GI Joe had no known female consort, and was also a eunuch, it is obvious that both Joe and Ken competed for the Goddess Barbi. One theory links this to the surviving Oak King/Holly King myths of earlier times.
Researchers also uncovered other mythical characters, known as Shakespeare, Einstein, Gandhi, and Ralph Nader. But since the ancient culture held these in much lower relative importance than Barbi, they obviously were mere minor demigods of the era. We are thrilled to have discovered these Old ways, since they shed light upon many unexplained traditions of today. We can use this clear view of history to put our present-day customs in perspective!
After this significant success in discovering the ancient Barbi myths, our archaeological efforts have been approved for additional funding to research the ancient Ninja Turtle myths as well. Since many plastic artifacts of the Ninja Turtles have been found in North America, perhaps they are linked to the ancient Native American cultures of Turtle Island? Only time will tell.
http://www.fromhell.com/~wams/barbi.html
Blessings
Song
Edited by - songmistress on 11 August 2002 14:11:33
joy2bfree and i have so enjoyed meeting over 70 of the posters here on jwd in the last few months.
this has brought us even closer to many, yet the things i learned about each made me even more concerned about others here.
i hope each is getting what they need from this cyberpub we visit.
{Of course everytime I post here I deduct the time from all the hours in service I was blindly involved in as a Jw, so in 20 years I might be even.}LOL @ Jim, never thought about posting in this way. So do you think this means we should go back to those we had as return visits and tell them we were wrong in what we were telling them. Just a thought.
Seriously tho, I lurked here for a year before I got involved. It has been interesting and enlightening seeing the variety of experiences ones have had, both good and bad. Just2laws, all the reasons you gave are valid from my perspective. It is hard to talk about the years spent as a JW with those who have no experience with it. I find myself spending more time explaining the insanity. Here we can talk and know that the jargon we may use will be understood because our experiences are built on common ground.
Blessings
Song
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i'm intrigued to see that prisca has decided to "come out" and posted her real pic, (even her car has turned up in a post by stephanaus).
termite has said "sod 'em all" with the result that her titian locks are visible in umpteen posts, and li'l toe put up his pic right from day one.. my question (to everyone) is this: do you feel that revealing your real identity on this site is an essential part of your departure from the religion of jehovah's witnesses, or do you feel that it doesn't make any difference to your personal growth whether or not you ever reveal who you really are?.
My concern is not that I will be found by the borg. I am in no way hiding from them. I have made my choice and stick by it, and they can stick it if they have a problem. I am open about having DA'd and most everyone I was associated while I was a drone knows.
For a while I had my first and last name in my bio. I have two e-mails, one for internet stuff and one for personal use. There are a couple of posters here that I have met personally, one I have known since I became a JW. There are others I expect to meet up with at sometime in the future. I have since taken out my last name.
My concern is more for the nature of the web. Current technology and capabilities make me extremely nervous. In all honesty, I have been spooked by the storys of creeps and freaks who troll the internet, pretend to be someone they are not and subsequently great harm has happened. However having said that, none of the posters I have come in contact with via posting and chat have made me feel uneasy. I am by nature a very trusting person, and for the most part that has served me well. Being so trusting tho, has at times blown up in my face. (hence my 18 years as a JW) So I am being cautious. Nothing more, nothing less and nothing personal.
As I get chances to meet others at apostatefests, meetups ect. more trust and openess will happen.
Just my $0.02.
Blessings to all and thanks for being here,
Song
ok so it always bothered me what a jerk jacob was.
he was a deceptive little cheater, and yet he was favored over his brother?
he used a blatant trick to confuse his obviously blind old father...how is he a biblical hero?.
Joanna,
I have been guilty of the doormat syndrome too, but Delilah was so obvious by this point. Makes me think of the song "When a man loves a woman".
I'd love to chat with you. Maybe we will manage to be in there at the same time someday. I live in Oregon and am in there many evenings.
Blessings
Song