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  JWs don't consider older WT as revelant

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am relating this happening.

  i shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning christ being mediator between god and man ( the wt spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the new covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind.

  it is a carefully arranged legal provision involving god and anointed christians.

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  Ron.W.

  The mental gymnastics the Jobots do to justify their fake religion is stunning.

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  All the Old JW Acquaintances Passing Away

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday, my dad told me an older sister passed away.

  she wasn't too old (in her 60s), but i knew her 30 years ago and haven't seen her in 15 years; the main reason being that i faded 10 years ago.. yesterday, i seriously considered attending the funeral and catch-up with old jws i used to know.

  after thinking it over, i decided against it.

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  Ron.W.

  Yes, the congregation think you are strange - but you know they are strange!
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Ron.W.

  Honestly, the way my jw parents react when I ask about tony the turd you'd think they were brainwashed!

  "We don't need to know what's happened to him.."

  "We are loyal to jehovah, we don't speculate."

  "Have you been talking to apostates?"

  Yes, pretty normal reactions to an honest question about what has happened to a member of their lauded governing body..🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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  All the Old JW Acquaintances Passing Away

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday, my dad told me an older sister passed away.

  she wasn't too old (in her 60s), but i knew her 30 years ago and haven't seen her in 15 years; the main reason being that i faded 10 years ago.. yesterday, i seriously considered attending the funeral and catch-up with old jws i used to know.

  after thinking it over, i decided against it.

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  Ron.W.

  My folks are on their last legs. So many of their peers have now passed away.

  They couldn't make the recent assembly, so I emailed their congregation co-ordinator for the link for them to watch it remotely - he never even replied to them.

  Their new co is visiting this week and the co-ordinator rang them, irritated for their reports - they are both housebound with cancer so I don't know what ministry he thinks they can do???

  Then he says to my dad who can't function, is in pain and totally housebound, that he would pick him up and get him to the very important elders meeting with the c.o. on friday...

  When my dad tried to kindly explain that he was too ill to attend the co-ordinator cut the call short and said he didn't have time to listen to all of my dad's health problems.

  Utter bastards all of them.

  They get no help or offers of help from anyone in their hall, but they are still undyingly loyal to the droids who attend...
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  A new Tony Morris thread: Question

  by XBEHERE in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am not trying to hijack the already well commented on thread on this subject .

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5068920948523008/breaking-news-anthony-morris-iii-no-longer-serving-on-governing-body.

  however i do have a question: for pimo's, pimq's, and those who still go to meetings in person fairly regularly... is anyone still talking about this?

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  It's a funny religion.

  My folks who have been in almost sixty years said to me recently, "We don't care if you prove to us that what we believe isn't correct or in line with the bible, we still know we have the truth!!"

  
  

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  Jesus wasn't ( isn't if inside org ) your mediator and blood of the covenant for 144000

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this questions from readers: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1989609?fbclid=iwar0cbmrtiyrknsggtnizkwuwfxunlalws6vog87eke_c4marr_drps8nywk....it makes very plain that jesus is only the mediator for the 144000 and while jesus said at matt 26:28 that the new covenant is for forgiveness of sin, the article makes it plain that the new covenant is a legality between god and the 144000. i have some thoughts already on this and i have started a document with this article.

  i would like appreciate any rebuttal thoughts you have on the article as well.

  this is one thing i have woke up to...the jw will start with a scripture, and then wrap a lot of other scriptures into the article so the rank and file think what great bible scholars and that they aren't that studious and so they swallow the falsehoods hook, line, and sinker.

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  Ron.W.

  Thanks - half way through.
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  JW visit...after 12 years out

  by Nobleheart1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to post here under the name nobleheart but forgot the old password, so put up a new account (nobleheart1).

  was a jw (2002-2011), ended up writing a da letter.

  i am a christian (since leaving the org).

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  Ron.W.

  I wonder how many active JW's actually know the organisation's teaching that 'Jesus is not a mediator for the great crowd'?

  I just asked my folks who have been in the wt religion since the 1960's - one of whom has been an elder for over 40 years and they didn't have a clue about this teaching!

  
  

  I had to prove it to them by showing it to them from wt's own publications.

  They were not happy and became defensive, troubled and worried...

  It's the line I am going to take with every JW I meet from now on who tries to preach to me!!
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Ron.W.

  I wonder if after Ray Franz leaving bethel every new gb member since then has had to sign a gagging/non disclosure agreement?
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  Scriptures That Don’t Fit WT Theology

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here’s a couple good ones: a. jesus said, “come to me and i will give you rest”.. why did jesus command us to go to him and not jehovah?.

  why does the bible say that the name of jesus is above every name?

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  1 Timothy 2:5,6
  5 For there is one God,+ and one mediator+ between God and men,+ a man, Christ Jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all*+—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

  Mediator - only for the 144,000?

  Who is the mediator for Jehovah's Witnesses? Not Jesus! Though rarely mentioned, Jesus is not mediator to the Great Crowd of Jehovah's Witnesses or for the rest of mankind. The official doctrine is that Jesus is mediator for the 144,000 alone.

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php
  
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  Young "Elders"

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ever since the annual meeting last october and the letter to bodies of elders stating that "exceptional young men perhaps in their early 20's could qualify for appointment as elders.." it even states this in the updated elders manual!

  have any of you pimo's, pimq's, or those on here with family/friends still in hear of any young men being appointed as elders yet?

  i am talking 21, 22, 23, 24 etc.

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  Ron.W.

  I'm sure the watchtower would have a fancy answer, but I thought the meaning in the bible of an elder was an older man.

  Someone fair, impartial and mature with lots of first hand experience of life, as well as being a long standing, trusted and respected spiritual man.

  The horrible, hard line, older, decrepit elders in one of my old halls sent a fresh faced ministerial servant to do a 'shepherding' call with me and my young family.

  This 'kid' was hardly even shaving yet.

  He cockily said, "Don't worry the shepherding call won't be discussing anything heavy or serious."

  I replied, "What if I want to discuss something deep, heavy or important about reaching out for further service privileges with a view to becoming an appointed man again?"

  He crapped himself on the spot and then said he would have to seek advice from the presiding overseer and get right back to me.

  He never got back to me and our family never had a 'shepherding' call from him or any of the thirteen elders on the body..

  What a bunch of spineless, heartless, disinterested bastards they all were.

  So, 'young elders'.. sounds like an oxymoron to me...🤦‍♂️