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  What other alternatives for the meaning of Babylon the Great ?

  by enoughisenough in

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  i thought the reasoning sound as to the wt explaination of babylon the great, ( world empire of false religion ) but have any of you knowledge of other plausible explainations?

  or knowledge of other sources that are in agreement with wt?

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  Elle2

  @Vanderhoven7

  I'm from the Netherlands and was disfellowshipped almost 40 years ago because of apostacy from the teachings of the GB brothers..... Now I am a free-christian also almost 40 years. I'm 78 years old and a man, widowed 4 years ago. Greetings to all the members of this Discussion-Forum.

  You wrote: I believe Babylon is the great city where Christ was crucified which presupposes an early date for the writing of Revelation.

  I believe that too. But that doesn't mean that I am a full-preterist :) .In Rev. 18:24 I read that in BdG was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slaughtered on earth (or in the land). I see in Mat. 23:27-38; Luke 11:47-51 together with Rev. 6:9-11 and 17:6 together with Rev. 18:20 things which are alike and have to do with the martyrs, just as in Rev. 11:7-8 and context, the Two Witnesses who were also killed in the great city that is spiritualy called Sodom and Egypt in the Old Testament. The two witnesses were justified. Their message was/is fulfilled.....

  I think that the Two Witnesses in Rev. 11 are a figure of the Law and the Prophets which were prophesying 1260 days (3 1/2 year) in sackcloth against the great city Jerusalem where their Lord (Jesus) and also John the Baptist were killed.

  Jesus was also called a prophet just like John the Baptist who was called by Jesus Eliah who would come before the great and terrible day of Jahweh, Mal. 4:1, 5, that day also in Rev. 6:16 and context, the days of vengeance as a fulfillment of al that is written in the Law and the Prophets (Luke 21:22 ,20-24). John the Baptist was also, just as Jesus, both named in a prophetic way in the Law or in the Prophets and called people to repent (Luke 3:15-17).

  John the Baptist and Jesus both were killed in Jerurusalem. BTW, Jerusalem had also seven hills, just as Rome and some other cities. Rome was used to punish and destroy Jerusalem and their temple in 70 AD.

  I am aware that there are some other explanations, and that my explanation is just one of them......

  And yes, I think too that the Revelation was written before 70 AD. I know that this is also explained differently.....

  My two cents.....
  

  Elle2