yeah.
normal schmormal.
SPAZ
i have been meeting-free for a year now, (although i did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity).
i have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back.
but i was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head?
Haven't yet
(outside of the wonderful world of fantasies that is),
but Sure...
I'll probably try a 3some at some point.
Not in any rush however.
As with most sexual things, i'm not so much 'curious',
i already know i would enjoy certain 3some scenarios.
Have been "propositioned" a few times about it,
(seems every guy on the face of the planet is into it,
so when the time is right, there should be no shortage of
volunteers lol)
but i jes' wanna take my sweetass time about it
and be sure these 'irreversible' experiences
are of my own accord only when i'm ready and with whomever i choose.
don't want no regrets.
Have had a ton of interesting conversations about it.
People are amazingly willing to share their experiences on this.
That really helps prepare ya to fully enjoy your own experience,
like this whole "weirdness-among-friends" factor, seems to be a recurring theme i hear,
so i hope to do what i can to avoid that glitch.
Some people seem to put a lot of effort into
"setting it up" for stuff like this,
I tend to think that if it's the right timing
and ok for all parties included,
it'll jes' all come together. (pun intended)
Preferably sans the weirdness factor.
When i try it, i'd like it to either be
girl-girl-guy
and/or
girl-girl-girl
Not into girl-guy-guy.
At this time.
Not sure who it'd be. I've got a few scenarios
in mind and in each instance the dynamics are different
enuf that it might mean different people would be
required.
Not into camera/video (mentioned earlier in this thread).
Can't afford to lose my job if stuff like that got out.
Not sure what i think about the full out orgy thing. (also mentioned earlier in this thread).
Seems a little outta bounds as far as my personal
health/safety risk tolerance goes.
SPAZ
my main problem with organised religion is when totalitarianism comes into play.
thats when you get institutions like the catholic church in its earlier years.
that should never be allowed.. jerome
some great points on this thread...marketing schemes, help for parents to teach their kids, a phase people go through.
i see truth in all of dat.
as for me, even when i was in the borg,
i always felt anti-religion,
and pro-spirituality.
spirituality is one part of a balanced satisfying life. it even has a scientific basis, certain parts of the brain get activated when a person in any religion or belief system thinks spiritually.
but as for organized religion
i'd say:
religion shmeligion
or is it organized schmorganized...
SPAZ
what's up with this thing in the member's directory: some of the names have crossmarks running through them?
jws who have been trolling?
the dustrabbit.
i have been meeting-free for a year now, (although i did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity).
i have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back.
but i was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head?
question: my friend who is df'd wishes to tell the elders that he won't be applying for re-instatement.
my friend only recently decided he doesn't want back in and isn't really "out" emotionally yet.
do elders really pay attention to df'd ones disappearing?
Whether they do or not, depends on that particular body of elders attitude toward the task and the individual.
Yes, when in the borg i wuz told they try and contact da'd/df'd ones every 6 months to a year. (much like a "Do Not Call").
However, I must be on the baaaaad list, cuz i've been out for a year and nobody has called. (thank gawd).
Altho, my brother just left me a message outta the clear blue, so who knows...maybe it's a plot to figure out where I live. If they were gonna reach me, would they do it subversively through my bro in order to call at my home address? Or would they just phone me?
Oh well. I can't help but hope i am on some bad list,
so they won't bother calling me at'all.
Anyway, as fer your question, I wouldn't tell 'em anything,
unless they are harrassing. Now that I'm out, i really don't hafta 'report' anything whatsoever to those guys.
My life is none o' their business.
Oh it's good 2b free.
SPAZ
to those that say that most jw's are windowwashers(due to no higher education), well you're wrong.
some are carpet cleaners, grease monkeys, pizza delivery boys, bread delivery boy, drivers, hair cutters, carwashers, toilet cleaners.... hey wait a minute... like the allmighty homer j. simpson said "dough!!
".
i just got this link passed on to me.
unbelievable....i have been looking for some support and validation of my assumptions for a while.
there certainly is a lot to contemplate here.. my story is too long to tell in the amount of time of have before my flight.
just curious if your parents still have contact with you after you have been df'd/da'd.
mine have stood by w/strong convictions not to have contact w/me.
they have to have some being that i have kids that they want to see (but that is very minimal).
My 'mother'..."checks in" about once a month...to either guilt trip me for not calling her, or to do what i'd call trying to 'nice me back into the borg'...or to snoop around and try to quench her insatiable curiousity about my sex life. Boy, can I keep secrets! I must drive her crazy. I have to though, she keeps records, FFS. Sometimes she calls when she's in a pissed off mood, it's as though calling me is her own personal rebellion at those times. We don't talk religion. She speaks to me like she has a check-list in front of her that she is ticking the topics off of.
My 'father' doesn't talk to me. Thank gawd. Hell, i'll even thank Jehovah for that one. This has been THE SINGLE BIGGEST RELIEF i've experienced upon leaving WTBTS. Had i known this would happen, i mighta left sooner.
Neither of my step-parents call me. Not that they ever really did. But of all my 'parents' I actually miss them the most.
SPAZ
does anyone know anything about this organization, aside from the fact that jimmy carter is somehow associated with them?
i'm considering doing some volunteer work for them, but don't know really know much about them.
i believe they are "faith-based", which i'm not necessarily keen on, but they get people into houses and bypass government red tape, which i do like.
og
thx for starting this thread. i've had this H4H org on my list of places to volunteer and a friend and i are planning to sign up right away here.
i've been humming and hawwing over it though.
like you, i'm not too keen on the "faith based" angle...
and that is mainly what's slowing me from gettin' in there like a dirty shirt.
keep us posted if you try it out and tell us whatcha think.
i'll do the same.
SPAZ