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  Snakes on a Plane...for or against?

  by jgnat in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i admit it, i'm not cool.

  i miss the trends.

  i don't notice a new fashion until half the women in this city are draped in it.

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  "What's next, spiders on a plane? Piranhas on a plane? How about slugs?"

  How about Rocky Horror Killer Tomatoes on a Plane?

  Tammy
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  Do You Think ExJWs Go To The Other Extreme When They Leave The Organization

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i know that i am enjoying some of the things i would've gotten involved with had i not been raised in the "truth".

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  As might be expected, an electronic calculator is not all advantages. There are disadvantages, and it is wise for you to consider them. For one thing, having a calculator is going to involve some money, time and attention. How much would you use it? In your case the few occasions when you would really be helped by having a calculator might not justify the cost, even with the recent low prices. Do you want to put money into something that you may not need, or that may be just a toy for a few days?
  
  
  
  

  Let's see. Some of them are more than a dollar. I may not want to invest that much money in one. If it breaks, I might have trouble finding a place to repair it for less than the $1.00 I can buy a replacement for. And the problem of batteries? Well, I shudder! I don't even want to go there.

  And though I use one practically daily in my job and at home, I am very worried that this passing fad of 30 years will leave me with another toy collecting dust on my desk.

  Also the time and attention spent calculating in seconds what I would normally take several minutes to do could actually be better spent on Apostate websites.

  Yes, these disadvantages are very important considerations. I can definitely see how I've been pushing the extreme with my over indulgence with pocket calculators. Perhaps I will go to my employer and explain how I want to start doing all my math by hand now so as to avoid this deadly sin.

  Tammy
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  Do You Think ExJWs Go To The Other Extreme When They Leave The Organization

  by minimus in

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  i know that i am enjoying some of the things i would've gotten involved with had i not been raised in the "truth".

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  I finally found it.

  It was posted several days ago by Jayhawk1 in a thread about chess. I had forgotten all about that article, but once I started reading I remembered reading it many years ago and about how absurd I found it then too. I recall that I thought that the WTBTS was really misinformed, and how could they warn us about calculators when they were boasting about their latest computer systems. Now, as I read it, I find it ludicrous, and am thinking of forwarding it to my friends as a humorous look at my past experiences.

  From the 9/8/76 Awake, starting on page 23, the article "Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?"

  Here's the link, see Jayhawk1's post, the twelfth one down.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/118478/1.ashx
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  Who would tell 9/11 survivors to just get over it?

  by Swan in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  maybe the same people who post on this board and tell us to just get over it.

  i get so tired of them dismissing our experiences and trauma by saying "why do you have to tear jehovah's organization down?

  just get over it and move on!".

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  I was talking with my counselor yesterday about how intangible mental disorders are to most people. We don't walk around with a cast on our heads. He says he can see it in his practice every day because it is his profession. He sees the effects and the improvements. But it is a slow process. And most people do not see it, cannot see it. Even people who have experienced trauma may not realize the effect it has upon them.

  That's when I came up with the analogy of the 9/11 survivors. Nobody would think of berating them for their similar traumatic symptoms, their work to recover emotionally, and their efforts to take back their lives (except maybe Ann Coulter). Yet isn't that what we are doing? Aren't we just going through the same process Lady lee described?

  Tammy
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  Will You React With Prejudice?

  by Jamaican JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  will you react with prejudice when faced with "absolute truth?

  sometimes, an irrefutable "truth" can be spoken.

  and yet, this statement or fact of "truth" can be glossed over or dismissed or not recognized by the community at large, because of preconceived ideas taught us and engrained in us, from our previous upbringing or training.

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  Welcome Jamaican JW!
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  for atheists/agnostics

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

  1. jw
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  how did you get to the point where you are at now?

  was it primarily new information that made you rethink religion and god?

  learning about the ice age, the universe, the fossils out there?

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  If there were a god, in my view, he/she/it should have DONE something by now to tell makind to quit it already.

  Yep, that was pretty much the way it was for me too. The mounting scientific evidence against the Bible's creation account made doubt more and more. However, it was man's inhumanity to man, and also God, who we are supposed to be made in the image of, not doing a damn thing about it, that cinched it for me. Hey, if you're going to be a god and create a universe, at least take some responsibility for taking care of things instead of just phoning it in.

  Supposedly for the first 4000 years of human history, He performs amazing miracles, punishes His followers when they make mistakes, holds grudges against people for generations, destroys evildoers, involves himself in the political affairs of the world, interferes every chance he gets, demands regular doses of smoking meat and fat on his altar, micro manages humans to no end... and then...

  ...nothing. Not a peep. 2000 years and he hasn't said boo.

  It makes no sense to me unless God is just some collection of superstitious myths by ancient peoples too ignorant of science to understand life, death, and the world around them.

  Tammy
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  hello

  by TxTiger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  geetings from the lone star state!.

  i am a friend of sara/decki/sparkplug ( and have been for over 12 years).

  she dragged me on here to meet all of you since she speaks very highly of most of you (lol).. take care and have a great day!.

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  Welcome TxTiger!
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  Do You Think ExJWs Go To The Other Extreme When They Leave The Organization

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i know that i am enjoying some of the things i would've gotten involved with had i not been raised in the "truth".

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  Swan

  I know that I am enjoying some of the things I would've gotten involved with had I not been raised in the "Truth".

  Yes. I watch movies without even paying any attention to the rating. I subscribe to HBO and Starz. I bought a computer chess game and have improved my game. I use a pocket calculator on occasion. I read anything that appeals to me; mysteries, fantasy, sci-fi, even historical romance novels. I still don't watch soap operas though or the super-bowl. I use the Internet. I gamble at times when I am in Reno or Vegas. I have become very enamored of sleeping in on Sunday mornings.

  Tammy
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  Who would tell 9/11 survivors to just get over it?

  by Swan in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  maybe the same people who post on this board and tell us to just get over it.

  i get so tired of them dismissing our experiences and trauma by saying "why do you have to tear jehovah's organization down?

  just get over it and move on!".

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  Maybe the same people who post on this board and tell us to just get over it. I get so tired of them dismissing our experiences and trauma by saying "Why do you have to tear Jehovah's organization down? Just get over it and move on!"

  Can you imagine telling a 9/11 survivor this? "Hey, why are you depressed? It's been 5 years now. You should just get over it and move on. It was traumatic, but it couldn't have been that bad! You've had long enough. Quit holding a grudge against the terrorists, talking about them all the time, and always tearing down their organization. Time to get out of your funk and get on with your life. Just snap out of it!"

  Why is someone's trauma socially acceptable and some other person's trauma not. If both are suffering the affects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, then how can anyone judge one person's trauma as legitimate and the other person's as holding a grudge or just being lazy?

  Tammy
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  Agnostic or Atheist?

  by done4good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for all of you non-religionists out there: do you consider yourself an agnostic or atheist, and why?

  it seems many ex-jws that "loose the faith" have a tendency to go straight for atheism.

  i myself, would consider myself more of an agnostic, as i believe we have no real way of knowing if there is a god one way or the other, and it tends to seem just as extreme to me, to insist that there is not one.

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  I don't believe in Big Foot, Leprechauns, or Hobbits either. But it is always fun to dream.

  Tammy