"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.
"all of our publications are open to everyone.
we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".
I'm way too smart for those tricks... I can see right through you... I know your nickname stands for 'apostate' and not just 'Poztate.' I ain't gonna trust no evil apostate!
But seriously―thanks, OrphanCrow and [a]Po[s]tate. It'll be an enjoyable read.
last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.
his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.
one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that if a 'normal' JW told the whole congregation that he or she is saving money for an Apple Watch, this JW would―and I have no doubt about that―have to meet with an elder or two to discuss his or her spirituality. Keep in mind one of the children's videos in which the Governing Body encouraged kids to donate instead of saving for ice creams―and we're talking about ice creams here...
last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.
his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.
one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).
fulano - Now they cant wear a 700$ watch?? Jesus.
I think there was/were times when the Governing Body asked JWs to donate their own valuables, such as watches, necklaces, etc., which is why that could be considered a problem by some. Additionally, in many congregations, especially buying an Apple watch could be considered a sign of weak spirituality. I myself know JWs who would react in this way to seeing that somebody is saving money just to buy an Apple watch. Another problem is that Governing Body members live off donations as far as I know. There's no way telling what happens to that money―or even to the money that comes from sales of Kingdom Halls. On a further note, the Governing Body members always keep themselves occupied by telling JWs how imminent the end is. One could very well wonder, "Why does he have an Apple watch if the end is 'just around the corner'?"
last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.
his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.
one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).
Who is he? Though a Witness, I've never heard of him.
"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.
"all of our publications are open to everyone.
we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".
How can I gain access to this book? I assume that one has to download it from an apostate source since I don't think it's available on any of JW apps/programs. I believe it's time for me to read it. I've been wondering what sort of 'teachings' are included in this publication.
if you, knowing ttatt, could go back in time and speak to your former jw self, what would you say to wake yourself up from the wt religion?.
i would speak to my unbaptised publisher self.
at that stage, i believed.
Research child sexual abuse policies in the organisation. There.
That had the most impact on me—if only had I learned earlier...
now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.
now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.
our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.
Well, I can forgive looter for this one... Maybe he wasn't allowed to use the computer at his house because of his parents listening to Watchtower™ guidelines on "using the Internet wisely." I wouldn't be surprised... He should be more knowledgeable about computers than cofty if he is 18 years old...
it doesn't look significant, but it is - the jerusalem post reports:.
the finding – coupled with a sphinx fragment of the egyptian king mycerinus (who ruled egypt in the 25th century bce), discovered at the site by the research team three years ago – are the only monumental egyptian statues found so far in second millennium contexts in the entire levant.the discovery of these two statues in the same building currently being excavated by the research team indicates the special importance of the building, which was likely the administrative palace of the ruler of the city, as well as that of the entire city of hazor.shlomit bechar, a doctoral student at the institute of archaeology, who has been excavating at hazor for a decade, is the dig’s co-director, and oversees the main excavation area.during the course of nearly 30 years of excavations, fragments of 18 different egyptian statues – both royal and private – dedicated to egyptian kings and officials, including two sphinxes, were discovered at hazor.“most of these statues were found in layers dated to the late bronze age (15th-13th centuries bce), corresponding to the new kingdom in egypt,” said ben-tor.“this is the largest number of egyptian statues found so far in any site in the land of israel, although there is no indication that hazor was one of the egyptian strongholds in southern canaan, nor of the presence of an egyptian official at hazor during the late bronze age.”ben-tor added that most egyptian statues found at hazor date to egypt’s “middle kingdom” (19th-18th centuries bce), a time when hazor did not yet exist.“it thus seems that the statues were sent by an egyptian king in the ‘new kingdom’ as official gifts to the king of hazor, or as dedications to a local temple, regardless of their already being ‘antiques,’” he said.“this is not surprising, considering the special status of the king of hazor, who was the most important king in southern canaan at the time.
the extraordinary importance of hazor in the 15th-13th centuries bce is indicated also by the biblical reference to hazor as ‘the head of all those kingdoms’ (joshua 11:10).”all the statues at the site were found broken into pieces and scattered over a large area, he noted.“clear signs of mutilation indicate that most of them were deliberately and violently smashed, most probably in the course of the city’s final conquest and destruction sometime in the 13th century b.c.e,” said ben-tor.“the deliberate mutilation of statues of kings and dignitaries accompanying the conquest of towns is a well-known practice in ancient times (i samuel 5:1-4; isaiah 11:9), as well as in our time.”the hazor excavations, which began in the mid-1950s under the direction of the late professor yigael yadin, are carried out on behalf of hu.
By the way, if you have any information about the alleged theft of Egyptian gold and other valuables, please inform the authorities in your local area. It is of utmost importance to bring the Jews to justice, which they have been avoiding for 3000 years. Theft of such great degree should never be excusable, even if it is commanded by God™ or gods™ or other divine entities™.
it doesn't look significant, but it is - the jerusalem post reports:.
the finding – coupled with a sphinx fragment of the egyptian king mycerinus (who ruled egypt in the 25th century bce), discovered at the site by the research team three years ago – are the only monumental egyptian statues found so far in second millennium contexts in the entire levant.the discovery of these two statues in the same building currently being excavated by the research team indicates the special importance of the building, which was likely the administrative palace of the ruler of the city, as well as that of the entire city of hazor.shlomit bechar, a doctoral student at the institute of archaeology, who has been excavating at hazor for a decade, is the dig’s co-director, and oversees the main excavation area.during the course of nearly 30 years of excavations, fragments of 18 different egyptian statues – both royal and private – dedicated to egyptian kings and officials, including two sphinxes, were discovered at hazor.“most of these statues were found in layers dated to the late bronze age (15th-13th centuries bce), corresponding to the new kingdom in egypt,” said ben-tor.“this is the largest number of egyptian statues found so far in any site in the land of israel, although there is no indication that hazor was one of the egyptian strongholds in southern canaan, nor of the presence of an egyptian official at hazor during the late bronze age.”ben-tor added that most egyptian statues found at hazor date to egypt’s “middle kingdom” (19th-18th centuries bce), a time when hazor did not yet exist.“it thus seems that the statues were sent by an egyptian king in the ‘new kingdom’ as official gifts to the king of hazor, or as dedications to a local temple, regardless of their already being ‘antiques,’” he said.“this is not surprising, considering the special status of the king of hazor, who was the most important king in southern canaan at the time.
the extraordinary importance of hazor in the 15th-13th centuries bce is indicated also by the biblical reference to hazor as ‘the head of all those kingdoms’ (joshua 11:10).”all the statues at the site were found broken into pieces and scattered over a large area, he noted.“clear signs of mutilation indicate that most of them were deliberately and violently smashed, most probably in the course of the city’s final conquest and destruction sometime in the 13th century b.c.e,” said ben-tor.“the deliberate mutilation of statues of kings and dignitaries accompanying the conquest of towns is a well-known practice in ancient times (i samuel 5:1-4; isaiah 11:9), as well as in our time.”the hazor excavations, which began in the mid-1950s under the direction of the late professor yigael yadin, are carried out on behalf of hu.
Well, this connection may be a breakthrough in the legal lawsuit against "all Jews of the world" for the theft of Egyptian gold and other valuables that took place three millennia ago.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/septemberweb-only/9-1-21.0.html
http://forward.com/news/8031/egyptian-scholar-planning-lawsuit-over-exodus-gold/
http://www.rense.com/general40/stoeln.htm
FOX NEWS ALERT! FOX NEWS ALERT! FOX NEWS ALERT!
If you read (only) Fox News and think you are well-informed—which would be freaking hilarious—keep in mind that my words found above are a joke.
so the sophia and caleb videos on jw.org where the parents emotionally abuse their children (especially the sparlock/obey jehovah video and the pay attention at the meetings/death threat video) were real eye openers for me.
previous to these videos, i was able to delude myself that the crazy, unbalanced behavior i noticed in some witness parents was the result of their own mental issues.
now i realize this craziness is being pushed and encouraged from the tippy top, from the grand ole maleficent seven.
steve2 - Without the videos, we may have concluded that it is only a few hard core JWs in local congregations that are extreme in their views - but the videos suggest otherwise.
Yeah... When I was still active as an unbaptised publisher, I believed that all the complaints I heard about the Jehovah's Witnesses were just individual cases that were not common in the organisation at all. This was because I didn't watch any of the videos on the website, and I also never cared about the JW Broadcasting. Whenever I was asked whether I've seen the latest episode, I would just say, "Yes," and then I would offer some random, general "insight" that could apply to literally everything.
Then I started researching the religion because I heard about the child sexual abuse problem, and my eyes were opened. I began to watch some of the videos and JW Broadcasting episodes, and I was sooooo surprised to see the stupidity in those "important lessons in the time of the end."
