note: although i wrote this many years before he died, it was the reading of crisis of conscience that inspired this poem and it is to the memory of raymond franz that i dedicate it and to all those both within and without the organization that desire change and that are working towards it.. "prometheus among us".
who would challenge the gods,.
or question what is divine?.
I freaking loved it!
I am usually bored by poems that don't have structure, and today, people tend to write unstructured poetry, which is... boooooooring. I love structured poetry, especially with rhymes. They don't only have meaning; they are true art. Yours is highly structured. When someone is able not only to show their emotions but also structure them in a poem, this person is a true writer.
every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".
noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.
apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.
cofty - I remember listening to an historian back in '89 immediately after the astonishing collapse of Communism. He was asked what the future of global politics would look like now that the Cold War was over.
He replied that the world would now return to the age-old conflict between Islam and the West. I wondered what the hell he was talking about.
I wish I could remember who he was.
My quick Google search resulted in a name Samuel P. Huntington, a political scientist, who in 1992 proposed a hypothesis called the Clash of Civilizations. Later, in 1996, he wrote a book called The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order. However, to my knowledge, he was not a historian, so I don't think this is the guy you are talking about. I wish I could go back to my World Issues class (just for a second though!) during which we discussed it...
every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".
noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.
apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.
cofty - He replied that the world would now return to the age-old conflict between Islam and the West. I wondered what the hell he was talking about.
I wish I could remember who he was.
Yup. He wrote a whole book about it—although it may have been a different person. Maybe I'll be able to find the name.
cofty - What would a Jainist extremist look like?
Maybe a person who literally wouldn't hurt a single fly? Note that I'm not talking about extremism necessarily characterised by violence but rather extreme interpretation of an ideology.
every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".
noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.
apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.
cofty - Sooner or later, in some form, with the same objectives and tactics - yes.
I would have to agree. It wouldn't exist in the same form as ISIS does today; nonetheless, Qu'ran encourages—not only allows—such possibility of holy war, and I strongly believe that sooner or later some fundamentalist followers would create an organisation similar to a degree.
Obviously, I am not saying that all or even most Muslims would embrace violence against non-Muslims. I am pointing out the fact that within every single religion there are fundamentalists who go to extremes, even if they are a minority.
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
James Mixon - "James, remember back in 1975 when you told me I will be BBQ in 1975".
"I will be BBQ"... Ha...!
anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.
Lloyd Evans published a video on his Youtube channel John Cedars which discusses the letter in detail.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Can't believe this thread was started three weeks ago. Time flies like an arrow and shoots you when you least expect it.
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
I was looking through the quotes about 1975, and I found something interesting...
This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end (Watchtower, August 15, 1968) [emphasis added].
I remember when I started studying with Jehovah's Witnesses around the year 2006... Back then they were also talking about the end all the time. Everyone was saying to me, just a little kid back then, that this world would end within a few years. You would think that they learned something from the 1975 fiasco; but, no, they still continue to "prophesy" that the end of this world is just around the corner. They still do the same thing―with only one exception; now they don't give any concrete dates.
after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
Am I the only one here who realises that the gospels are not historically reliable...?
after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
quincemyles - First century Greek and Hebrew Historians wrote that he rose up appearing to more than 500 humans.
Are you talking about the gospels?
Witness My Fury - What about the zombies in jerusalem where they real too?
Haha! I know what you did here... That's a reference to the movie World War Z!!!!!
