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  Reinstated and then fade

  by Zeds Dead in

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  2. experiences

  i'm a man - d'fd for 2.5 years now and divorced.

  find it hard to date girls out here only due to always having this secret i carry with me that i was once a jw and the thought of telling a girl one day why my family don't acknowledge me as even alive.. recently been thinking of trying to get reinstated and then do a quick fade as i cant go back to the whole jw stuff.. easier said than done and was turned down twice by elders after an immediate attempt 2 years ago.. my motivation for trying would be 1.

  ) to see if family make contact and 2) play the last hand in their game and give the middle finger.. interested in viewpoints?.

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  Saename

  If they can't accept you when you're not officially a Jehovah's Witness—even if you're not a bad or immoral person—why should they matter to you? "Because blood"? Blood relations are random. They only have meaning when there's acceptance and love. Otherwise, they're meaningless. (Sorry if it seems a bit harsh to someone; I was invited to share my viewpoint.)

  I'd have to agree with just fine. Move along. Shun them back. Write them a letter explaining why you feel obliged to shun them.

  When—if—you'll find the right person, you'll see that she'll accept you no matter what. People are better than you may (I'm not totally sure whether you do) think. When you tell her about your past, she'll understand. She won't hate you. She'll hate your Jehovah's Witness family because they won't accept you. There's no reason to hold back who you once were. Embrace it. Live with it. Move along.

  Edit: Just saw what LifesNotOver said. I'd have to agree that it's better to tell her about your past matter-of-factly and when you know her a bit and the time is right.
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  Education or propaganda?

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking for some material to post on facebook or at least share with my wife to somewhat inoculate her mind before the convention this weekend.. found this gem...it's as if the writers are apostates reasoning against the tactics used at this years convention.....(probably old news to many here....quite new for me).. the cunning propagandist loves such shortcuts—especially those that short-circuit rational thought.

  propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic.

  as history bears out, such tactics can prove all too effective.. [...].

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  Saename

  This article describes the organisation quite well. Accordingly, as I was reading it, I thought how hilarious and ridiculous it would be if it were from a Watchtower publication. Imagine my surprise at the end...
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  Why are the least informed people the most opinionated?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  while trying to have a conversation with a trump supporter today i realized the person knew next to nothing about the us constitution, world events, trumps flip-flops, hillary's e-mails, etc.. i have sense decided it is much easier to do absolutely no research and boldly make broad proclamations rather than read up on a particular topic and make concise points.

  as such, i will now be telling you why tim kaine was the worst governor new jersey has ever had:.

  under tim kaine new jersey gdp dropped by 97%.. humming birds were able to penetrate restricted airspace.. the bridge to missouri kept getting closed.. he made the state look weak by having a state flower.. all the hard working i-pad miners lost their jobs.. and he set up obamacare death panels that were run by isis in planned parenthood vegan centers..

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  ctrwtf - Speaking of under-informed voters. Tim Kaine was never the governor of New Jersey. He was the governor of Virginia however.

  Thomas Keane was a governor of New Jersey and a republican, not a democrat.

  Just sayin,

  I think that was Coded Logic's point...
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  Old People Ask..."I'm 88, and my girlfriend is 83, why do we need a chaperone?"

  by TimeBandit in

  1. social
  2. humour

  here's the latest episode of old people ask.

  this episode focuses on chaperones.

  why oh why do old people need them?

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  Saename

  Haha! A sleeping pill! That was fun to read...
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  Prometheus Among Us

  by Oroborus21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  note: although i wrote this many years before he died, it was the reading of crisis of conscience that inspired this poem and it is to the memory of raymond franz that i dedicate it and to all those both within and without the organization that desire change and that are working towards it.. "prometheus among us".

  who would challenge the gods,.

  or question what is divine?.

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  Saename

  I freaking loved it!

  I am usually bored by poems that don't have structure, and today, people tend to write unstructured poetry, which is... boooooooring. I love structured poetry, especially with rhymes. They don't only have meaning; they are true art. Yours is highly structured. When someone is able not only to show their emotions but also structure them in a poem, this person is a true writer.
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  ISIS Want to Clear up Why They Do Terrorism

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".

  noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.

  apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.

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  cofty - I remember listening to an historian back in '89 immediately after the astonishing collapse of Communism. He was asked what the future of global politics would look like now that the Cold War was over.

  He replied that the world would now return to the age-old conflict between Islam and the West. I wondered what the hell he was talking about.

  I wish I could remember who he was.

  My quick Google search resulted in a name Samuel P. Huntington, a political scientist, who in 1992 proposed a hypothesis called the Clash of Civilizations. Later, in 1996, he wrote a book called The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order. However, to my knowledge, he was not a historian, so I don't think this is the guy you are talking about. I wish I could go back to my World Issues class (just for a second though!) during which we discussed it...
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  ISIS Want to Clear up Why They Do Terrorism

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".

  noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.

  apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.

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  cofty - He replied that the world would now return to the age-old conflict between Islam and the West. I wondered what the hell he was talking about.

  I wish I could remember who he was.
  

  Yup. He wrote a whole book about it—although it may have been a different person. Maybe I'll be able to find the name.

  cofty - What would a Jainist extremist look like?

  Maybe a person who literally wouldn't hurt a single fly? Note that I'm not talking about extremism necessarily characterised by violence but rather extreme interpretation of an ideology.
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  ISIS Want to Clear up Why They Do Terrorism

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".

  noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.

  apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.

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  cofty - Sooner or later, in some form, with the same objectives and tactics - yes.

  I would have to agree. It wouldn't exist in the same form as ISIS does today; nonetheless, Qu'ran encourages—not only allows—such possibility of holy war, and I strongly believe that sooner or later some fundamentalist followers would create an organisation similar to a degree.

  Obviously, I am not saying that all or even most Muslims would embrace violence against non-Muslims. I am pointing out the fact that within every single religion there are fundamentalists who go to extremes, even if they are a minority.
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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  Saename

  James Mixon - "James, remember back in 1975 when you told me I will be BBQ in 1975".

  "I will be BBQ"... Ha...!
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  There is a new letter to elders about Child Abuse

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.

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  Saename

  Lloyd Evans published a video on his Youtube channel John Cedars which discusses the letter in detail.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58G6U_tb7E