KerryKing

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  What is your experience with conversations outside jw.org

  by Gorb in

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  i write many times how good it is to be pomo for me, my wife and children.

  feeling better then ever.

  jw family accept this status.

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  KerryKing

  I don't mean this in a nasty way so please don't read this as such, you ask if it's a jw habit and from my personal experience, yes, yes it is.

  As jw we are taught that we are the only people who have the truth and everyone else is wrong, they are 'worldly' people from Satan's system. This I believe, creates such an arrogance and superiority within us that we can't stop ourselves from spouting what we believe, too much and too fast, with no realisation of how this is being received until it's too late and we've lost any connection we had with the other person.

  This sounds harsh but it has definitely been the case in myself and JWs I know.

  Once we leave the org we finally get the opportunity to learn true humility, true compassion and empathy, that draws people to you without any effort or second guessing, there's no pretence or putting on an act like JWs do, and that is instinctively felt by others. This is how Jesus himself must have been, according to the gospels, people felt drawn to him, he was on their level in all sincerity, not pretending, and from there he had people enthralled and following him day and night just to hear him teach.
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  unbaptized boy having priority over women

  by enoughisenough in

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  i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

  ; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

  would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

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  KerryKing

  A thought struck me, are they anticipating the loss of many elders......what with all the CSA cases around the world, are they preparing to use all the elders associated with those cases as scapegoats?

  In that case they would need to prepare for substitutes asap.

  Interesting how the corp has found alternative beliefs around blood transfusions ie you can take fractions, and they have loosened the grip on personal dress and grooming, and how to treat the disfellowshipped, as per court instructions, but as regards women, they have NEVER EVER loosened their stance in any shape or form, despite the ARC practically demanding that they include women in their judicial committees as a kindness to the victims.

  They were called cruel then, they are just as cruel now.
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  unbaptized boy having priority over women

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

  ; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

  would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

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  KerryKing

  I know sorry, badly worded, I meant the patriarchy! I'm not a man hater really, married and with 3 sons 😅
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  They need to be a legal entity for human law: but which law?

  by psyco in

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  2. beliefs

  i could be mr. green and, due to mistrust considering the times and what is happening, study with the jws as mr. brown.. get baptized as mr. brown.. become one of their congregation elders as mr. brown.. etc.

  etc.. all this since i am not required to provide any signature and/or document to identify myself as mr. brown.. are they complying with human law?

  but which law?.

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  KerryKing

  Yes, the whole charity status is their life line, without that they would go under financially
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  They need to be a legal entity for human law: but which law?

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could be mr. green and, due to mistrust considering the times and what is happening, study with the jws as mr. brown.. get baptized as mr. brown.. become one of their congregation elders as mr. brown.. etc.

  etc.. all this since i am not required to provide any signature and/or document to identify myself as mr. brown.. are they complying with human law?

  but which law?.

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  KerryKing

  Churches are not legally obliged to become corporations or charities, they all do it for the tax benefits though
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  unbaptized boy having priority over women

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

  ; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

  would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

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  KerryKing

  God cursed Eve with 'your craving will be for your husband but he will dominate you', historically men translated that as 'she wants to have a monogamous marriage but I can do what I like while she has to be faithful to me alone', what it actually means is that women crave respect and recognition from their men.

  This doesn't mean that men don't have the choice to behave better, Jesus obviously thinks they can and so did the Apostles, but men prefer to interpret God's words as a licence for bad behaviour.
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  Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.

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  KerryKing

  Dictionary defines remove as moving something or someone away from where it was. Doesn't sound voluntary to me, actually sounds worse than disfellowshipping.
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  Why do exJWs sign disassociation letters?

  by psyco in

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  by law, they ask you to sign to leave a society/organization when, by the same law, they do not ask you to sign to join it.. imagine being in court with a representative of the jws.. the judge asks you: "are you a jw?"..

  you could respond: "let them prove it!"..

  question: how would they prove it?

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  KerryKing

  I remember being asked to sign a publisher record card, they were updated every x amount of years. I wonder of those are still in use nowadays?
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  unbaptized boy having priority over women

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

  ; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

  would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

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  KerryKing

  Paul's letters are not all in the Bible, so we don't have a full picture of why he wrote what he did. It is very likely, going by context, that there was an issue with the women in that particular congregation, like with other corrections and admonitions in his letters, that didn't make it a blanket rule for all congregations.

  It's also very possible that these anti women verses were added at a much later date, and not by the original writer at all.

  Beroean Voices channel on YouTube has been an eye opener for me regarding the history, accuracy and origin of the NT.

  'All scripture is inspired of God' was written before the NT even existed, what we have now, is what the Catholic Church deemed 'holy scripture' in the 3rd century. And they had no original writings to go on, only copies. Copies full of mistakes, damaged and marginal notes of which no one knows if they were in the original or added afterwards.

  Makes we wonder what they kept hidden in the Vatican vaults?
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  2024-07-July-S-147 Announcements!

  by Atlantis in

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  2024-07-july-s-147 announcements!.

  https://pdfhost.io/v/96mkpxpq1_untitled_1 .

  grandpa!.

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  KerryKing

  It's actually disgusting to read, children more qualified to serve God than women is my take away. And do NOT bother sending your time or money to your imprisoned brothers, better give it to us instead 😡😡 Totally opposite to how first century Christians looked after each other!

  Is that letter read out at a public meeting?