Posts by KerryKing

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Bible Lessons You Won't Learn From The GB

by Journeyman in

for those on this forum who still consider themselves christian or students of the bible, are there any bible principles you came across during your own study or research that were never brought out by the gb of the jws but that you found significant or profound?.

i don't mean doctrinal issues like the trinity, heaven & hell, etc, as these are issues christendom has been arguing over for centuries.

i mean simple, scriptural principles that the gb could've highlighted at any time, but for various reasons - some obvious, some less so - have chosen not to.. one that stood out to me is in 1 samuel chapters 2, 3 and 4.. young samuel has been dedicated to the temple and is being raised to serve god there.

KerryKing

They teach righteousness through works, whereas the Apostle Paul stated otherwise.

The Bible clearly states that Deborah was a judge, WT contradicts the Bible.

They claim that the NT is inspired by God, but when the verse 'All scripture is inspired by God' was written, the NT didn't even exist yet.

They never delve into the cultural meaning of NT rules, like about women covering their heads etc, there was a direct cultural reason for this that they are clueless about, among other teachings of Jesus like turning the other cheek, walking an extra mile, givithe inner cloak. These teachings make no sense unless the cultural norms of the 1st century are known.

WT does no real research.

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The abuse of JW org

by wozza in

awhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.

i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.

his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.

KerryKing

It is nearly always men who insist that women can only receive justice when she provides a witness.

It is men who seem to be so convinced that women often bring false charges, statistically this is actually very rare.

Women who report a rape, are usually dismissed by the police, with or without evidence from DNA etc.

The system is wired against women and is getting worse, specifically in Europe, where rape victims are often accused of being racist, and hence dismissal.

I am afraid for my young daughter seeing how the patriarchy is gaining force worldwide, women's rights look good on paper but are not enforced whatsoever, from the very top down.

WT is just another organisation, like thousands more, who are happy with the status quo, because it is led by men exclusively.

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The Greeks had a word for it, but the Watchtower didn't

by Nathan Natas in

i recall as though it was only 60 years ago, sitting in the kingdom hall on those horrible chairs, learning of the four forms of love: agape, philia, storge and eros.. the watchtower never mentioned pragma.. pragma: this is a committed, compassionate love that often grows as two partners continue to cherish and care for each other.

this type of love is associated with being together for a long time.

in some cases, the passion of eros can grow into pragma over time, this forging a lasting bond.. i think i know why; the watchtower isn't into committed, compassionate, cherishing and caring, are they?.

KerryKing

Philautia definitely wouldn't fit well the WT preaching of 'self-sacrifice', a term not found anywhere in the Bible , though they love it.

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New light on including people you have rejected for 27 yrs😳

by dinosarentreal in

can anyone point me in the direction of articles to read about the “new light” about hanging out with family members who are not believers?

i left when i was 20, i was disfellowshipped for five years, went back to it for family and left again shortly after.

i never got disfellowshipped again so that i could talk to my parents.

KerryKing

Similar experience here, I find it so fake though because they're only making contact because they've been given permission to.

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What Theme Song Should Be Played When You Walk Into a Room?

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

this could fun.

what song should be played when you walk into a room that best describes you?

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KerryKing

Another one bites the dust - Queen

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We Don’t Give Christmas Presents; We Give Presents To Each Other All Year Long!

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

how many of you dutifully told this lie to your friends as a kid?.

KerryKing

I got all those replies too, funny how our parents all had the same response ready??

'We get presents all year round '

Oh yes, new clothes and notebooks and pens for assemblies and conventions.

Why do JWs automatically assume it's all about the presents anyway? That is actually ridiculously shallow reasoning in the first place.

Now that I celebrate Xmas thanks to my ever-so-worldly husband, I get to enjoy seeing my children's excitement and anticipation weeks in advance, we bake and craft and decorate. There is NOTHING in jw land that compares to this, and the family bonding around this time doesn't happen in jw land....at all.

They deprive themselves of their God given children, every step of the way, the kids are sacrificed at Jehovah's altar, over and over again.

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Does god punish children for their parents sins?

by moomanchu in

ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “the word of the lord came to me: ‘what do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of israel: “the parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”?

as surely as i live, declares the sovereign lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in israel.

for everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me.

KerryKing

I think I could listen to you for hours Kaleb! Do you have a YouTube channel or similar?

I would dearly love to learn more about the Jewish history from a Jewish viewpoint as you seem to do so well.

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Watch Tower PA sues Russia in DC district over confiscation of Bethel

by Corney in

the watch tower society of pennsylvania filed a lawsuit on september 3, 2024, naming as defendants the russian federation, the russian ministry of health, and the almazov national medical research center.

unfortunately, i can't access the case documents, including the complaint.

i would appreciate if someone with an active pacer account could make them available.. anyway, it is enough to know the almazov center is one of the entities sued by the wts to say what this case is about.

KerryKing

How much suffering are they causing the rnf indirectly by pi!ss!ng off the Russian state this way?

It's like Malawi all over again. Makes my blood boil!

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Why so many cult leaders have weird relationship issues and dysfunctional marriages?

by buzkid in

why do so many cult leaders have weird relationship issues and dysfunctional marriages?russell coudn't get along with his wife mariah.

rutherford had trouble with his wife and sent her away.. eric wilson says it's o.k.

if you don't get legally married as long as you have a "spiritual marriage" in his latest video response to the situation of people coming forward complaining about the abusive religious tactics his "wife" practices and he condones.. i ask this question in a previous post but it deserves it's own discussion definitely:why is it that so many cult leaders have weird relationship issues and dysfunctional marriages?.

KerryKing

Eric is right in that a legal marriage was never a biblical requirement, that came centuries later.

It isn't a legal requirement anymore today either, a common law marriage is accepted in most western nations, but for inheritance and tax purposes, a legal marriage is still often preferred.

The WT uses the paying Caesar's things back to Caesar as a reason to be legally married but thats taking the verse completely out of context, as it refers to taxation, not marriage. The WT is also REALLY good at only applying this to their r and f but never themselves as an organisation.

In fairness to Eric, he has exposed the WT and Christendom lies re women and their role in first century Christianity, he acknowledges clearly that the scriptures speak of women judges, prophets, apostles, teachers and healers.

Whether Eric and Wendy are legally married or not is nobody's business but their own, same goes for anyone else.

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follower of Eric Wilson, abusive to single women covered by paying sums of money to support Beroean Pickets tourism trips.

by buzkid in

susanne eigenheer is an ex-jw and suffered religious abuse in eric wilson's group.

her personal statement and experiences within the beroean pickets study groups was one of betrayal where she was taken advantage of financially.

in one text conversation, wendy wiens disfellowshiped susanne and demanded an apology from her.

KerryKing

I've recently realised that many of us who left the JWS still carry the belief that the bible has all the answers, if only we interpret it right.

For which we believe we need to pray and ask for holy spirit, in order to understand.

Then arises the scenario, and I see this in all the ex jw groups; Hey, I understand now, because I HAVE hs! If you don't agree/understand like I do then you obv do NOT have hs!

There's a constant them v us thinking.

Yet the Bible is a product of human writing, we're regurgitating and perpetuating the very notions and cultural beliefs that Jesus actively resisted. That's the scholarly and historical conclusion to the life and ministry of Jesus, without any religious interpretation.