Read the book 1984 by George Orwell. It will be erased. It will have never happened.....
Craziness,
Stacey
as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.
the dpi is now taking them off the list.
the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.
Read the book 1984 by George Orwell. It will be erased. It will have never happened.....
Craziness,
Stacey
this is probably a strange question, but how do you "pick" something else to study?
i'm having a hard time just picking up the bible & reading it - but i'm terrified of picking up any "study material" from other organized religions to help.
which bible do i use?
Petty,
I too was born & raised JW. Coming out I was scared to pick up any materials that were "apostate" and not WT publications. What fear they instilled in us.
After leaving the JWs I did start studying Christianity. Yes, from one religion to the next. I did that for several years, and again did not use my critical thinking and reasoning. Just went along with yet another man's rendition of the "truth".
Now I belong to no religion, I read anything I want to. I am not scared of putting "bad" information into my head. I take things with a grain of salt that I read, and I dont believe it just because I read it or because someone told me it was the way to go. I have recently done much critical study of the bible and the christian religion, and decided that maybe that was not the path for me.
There are many eternal questions in life. I dont have the answers. And neither does anyone else really. It's all just anyone's best guess. And if god is going to punish us for guessing wrong (with all of the lack of clear direction), well then geez, he's not a very nice god. I have just come to terms that there is no more black & white in my life. Life is too colorful to make everything black and white. Why cant we just ask questions and wonder. I've learned to be comfortable with not knowing.
I hope you can come to something that you are comfortable with. Just know that most of us have been where you are. And we've all taken our own path. You must do the same.
Just blabbing....
Stacey
hello friends, this is your vitameatavegamin girl.
by the way, don't forget to watch the i love lucy marathon on tv land starting october 15th, it should be a hoot.
50th anniversary of the show.. anyway, lately i have been doing more thinking about everything.
Namewithheld makes some excellent points in my opinion. I think that it is so true. We all know only what is in our view being JWs. What if you were raised Mormon, Jewish, Muslim, whatever... that is what you would know as "the truth"! There is so much more to see when you get out of your little box of belief. Why go with the "closest thing to the truth", when I think really there is no one religion that is "the truth". Fear is just a tool of any religion to keep you in their circle.
Once you get past that fear, life is good... life is limitless... sure there are still questions. But when you come to the point that questions are ok, and that maybe there are no definitive answers in life at this very moment, things change. For me anyways.
Just blabbing...
Stacey
summary: real people, phony religion.
i'll let the others fill in on the details.
It was nice to meet everyone, and I think we all enjoyed each other's company. I'm glad that I went!
Stacey
the gathering will be at golden gate park, lindley meadows starting at 12:30 on sunday, october 7th.
it will end at sunset.
bring some meat to cook for yourself, and please bring a dish to share.
The gathering will be at Golden Gate Park, Lindley Meadows starting at 12:30 on Sunday, October 7th. It will end at sunset. Bring some meat to cook for yourself, and please bring a dish to share.
Lindley Meadows is located on JFK Drive in Golden Gate Park (that's near 30th Avenue north side of the park).
We hope to see you all there!
Stacey
ok.. for those of you who may not know me from previous posts, all i can say is this is unusual for me and please do not judge me as a person for it.
for the other friends who know me by such, please take this into consideration when you read this.
i would like to get some feedback on this, perhaps from some of the folks from the martial arts threat joel started recently, especially if you have also read my other posts.. (hopefully a well balanced combo).
Intro,
All I know is that I'm going to stay away from your car at Golden Gate Park this Sunday. Haha. See you then!
Stacey
i have an 8yr old step-daughter caught up in the madness of the jws through unrelenting fear based brainwashing by her mother.
my husband and i would like to know if anyone has been in a similar situation and is able to help us let her know that there is another more loving way of living in this world.
its frightening to see the damage my husbands ex is doing to this inocent little girls mind.
yep
i hadn't seen any recent posts about this event.
tonight i spoke to paul thomason, the organizer of the event.
he said that last year they had about 18 in attendance.
Hi Dats! I dont go to the Yahoo board much anymore. I spend more time here. Couldn't stand all those active JWs coming in and arguing... GRRRRRRRr.
I'm glad you're here. It's good to see you, I hope all is well. I have not talked to Snowpea in a very long time. I'm not sure what she's up to....
Wish you could be here too!
Stacey
i hadn't seen any recent posts about this event.
tonight i spoke to paul thomason, the organizer of the event.
he said that last year they had about 18 in attendance.
Ash,
Sorry it's a hard time for you. Lots of people have been where you're at. It's easier maybe to converse and take part in ex-jw things when you have healed most of your hurts from being in the organization. I feel like that's where I'm at. I'm not in the turmoil of it anymore, so it's easy to talk to people about it. I agree with what you said....
I don't want to call myself an ex-JW, I am ___ _______, and that's it.
I think we all feel that way. Of course we are who we are before we put any titles on ourselves. But I also would say that being born & raised a JW is a big part of who I am still today. I've tried to take anything positive that I can from that. The rest, I try to leave behind.
Who else but another ex-jw can understand how I feel? That's why I like ex-jws so much!
Anyways, I hope that you continue coming to the board. And I hope that you figure things out for yourself.
Stacey
i hadn't seen any recent posts about this event.
tonight i spoke to paul thomason, the organizer of the event.
he said that last year they had about 18 in attendance.
Ash,
This is a social gathering more than anything. We will have volleyball, croquet set up. And food. I am not going there to talk the whole time about being an ex-jw. I have met some cool people on this board. And it will be great to see them in person. I can guarantee you that we will not be putting our chairs in a circle and sharing out JW experiences.
If you went to a tupperware party, would you talk about Tupperware the whole time? I dont think so. Well, maybe you would. Hmmm, I've never been to a Tupperware party. My point, you like to hang out with people you have something in common with. Where better to do that than a fun event such as this. I dont think its immersing yourself in the past. But... to each his own. If someone doesnt like the idea, they dont have to go. I for one think it will be COOL.
Stacey