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  Removing Mr. Trump from office.....

  by mikeflood in

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  former fbi deputy director mccabe confirms: there were discussions within the department of justice about invoking 25 th amendment to remove trump from office.... .

  i mean the us democracy isn't a third world country, a least the people involved should be reprimanded, they acted like trying a coup d'etat..

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  It's amazing how any mention of Trump, whites, rights, masculinity, and women's equality, always brings the same right wing , fact denying, whataboutist victims swarming.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

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  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  LongHairGal,

  So like many, you choose to ignore the true statistics. Like a certain politician. No point in arguing with you, just have to wait for the cognitive dissonance to kick in. If ever does.
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  This Is It...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just finished watching the talk by tony morris on john cedars channel.

  sounded to me that he was hedging his bets.

  on the one hand he says "this is it" and out of the other he says prophecies are best understood after they are fulfilled.

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  Amos 3:7 talks about revealing things to prophets. The GB says they aren't prophets, so doesn't that mean that they aren't qualified to prophesie?
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  Waton,

  Government studies in the United States show that immigrants, both legal and illegal, commit fewer crimes than the native born. Shoots any "pale peace" theory out of the sky. Could it be that the majority of those that come here are looking for a decent, safe place to live, rather than to rape and plunder?
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  LUHE,

  I'm sorry if I offended you. You didn't actually say that you consider whites superior, and I apologize for that. I'm a little prejudiced in that there is a long history in America of whites that want a society in which whites have all the control, and most (not all! ) of those are white supremacists., so I sometimes let that color my remarks.

  I suppose I'm a little puzzled, in that even the younger ones of us on this site will be gone before there is a noticeable change in our way of life. I have a son in University, and from what I see of his contemporaries, they're much more comfortable with diversity, (culture, race, LGBTQ concerns among others.) Why not let them decide what they want?

  If the future is a brown one, with a common culture that's a mix of all the best, people getting along, everyone housed, with plenty to eat and wear, and people able to pursue their desires, I can live with that. Certainly, the way things are isn't the way to go, and making all countries segregated by racial majorities will do nothing to ease tensions between nations.

  But, that's my opinion. You and I are already hard-wired to feel what we feel, and I can no more understand your feelings than you can mine.

  I'll leave it at that. Thanks for an interesting debate.
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  Removing Mr. Trump from office.....

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  former fbi deputy director mccabe confirms: there were discussions within the department of justice about invoking 25 th amendment to remove trump from office.... .

  i mean the us democracy isn't a third world country, a least the people involved should be reprimanded, they acted like trying a coup d'etat..

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  Since the 25th Amendment was enacted to remove incapacitated or mentally unfit Presidents, they were correct to consider a wiretap if they truly believed Trump was unfit to carry out his duties. How else do you think they should get evidence to invoke the 25th? Have him sign a statement in which he admits he's nuts?
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  'Spiritual food' and the global south

  by john.prestor in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm watching john cedars rebuttal of the annual meeting, and right at the start stephen lett starts going on and on about spiritual food, how nutritious it is, how filling it is, it comes across as weird but it doesn't help admittedly that the guy looks like bozo the clown forgot his act.

  but the thought just came to me as i'm eating dinner.. not everybody gets dinner.

  not everybody gets three meals a day.

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  Remember when Christ fed 5,000 with 5 Watchtowers and two New World Bibles?
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  Is this how you saw your Armageddon? I sure did :(

  by Diogenesister in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.

  after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!

  you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.

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  If Jehovah really sees men's hearts, why does he use such convoluted ways to kill the wicked? Only a cruel, unloving, God would cause such suffering. That's why so many blind themselves to the wording in the Watchtower. They know in their hearts that a loving God would never be so unfair, or illogical.
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  What Do You Think of Socialism?

  by minimus in

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  do you support socialism?

  is it something that you would want in your country?.

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  The 12 Apostates

  I likewise would be dead or living on the street if I had to rely on the US health care system. Without the caps established by the Affordable Care Act, I would be homeless, due to a heart attack, gallbladder surgery, eye surgery, and torn meniscus in both knees, none of which could be foreseen. Luckily, I'm now on Medicare, or I would be uninsurable at this point..

  I'm sure many here have insurance through their jobs, so don't realize the fear that those less fortunate have of any major illness.

  People will disagree, but there is a tiny minority of people who take advantage of the social safety net. If they're fine with the majority of those less fortunate suffering and dying because a few are cheaters, that's up to them and their conscience.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  LUHE,

  First of all, I would be hesitant to embrace ideas that claimed their validity because they've been around since 1919. Just saying. IQ tests are not settled science, because there's no possible way to measure exactly how much environment, socio economic status, nutrition, and test bias can affect the results. Thus, you find that there are two camps, neither with indisputable conclusions.

  Also, a study of DNA ancestry by McGill University of Montreal shows that most African Americans have some European ancestry.

  Since you have so many friends of color, and have observed the successes of others, I take it then, as long as they adhere to the customs, language, and culture of Western civilization, you have no problem with immigrants. So as long as that is a given, I see no problem with the population getting a little browner.

  You ask, how do you determine race? Obviously, you define it as the color of individuals, going by your Frank Bruno example.

  Your Gaelic example is laughable, because they would be considered white, it doesn't matter what their ethnic background is.

  So, despite your protestations, most of those commenting here would prefer to live in an all white society. Just because they admit that there are some worthy, intelligent people of color, doesn't nullify their prejudice. It's too close to that old argument, "some of my best friends are black!".

  Some here think I'm a weepy liberal, but I'm actually a liberal realist. There are two ways to look at the situation. Someone who prefers whites will complain "the world is getting browner!" You could equally claim the world is getting paler, if you come from Swaziland.

  You will never convince me that someone who wants to live in an all white country doesn't consider whites to be generally superior to other races. It has nothing to do with "Western Civilization", no matter how you try to veil it with cherry picked examples of how whites are responsible for all major achievements. Whites had superior weapons, and forced their culture upon the rest of the world. When Europeans were floundering around in the Dark Ages, Arabia kept the flame of knowledge alive. It all boils down to that old adage. "to the victor belong the spoils."

  Whether by force, or simple assimilation, there's no going back. I plan to make the most of the situation by enjoying all the new experiences and interesting people I come across. I doubt that it will harm me or my children. even if their children are darker than me.

  So you see, I plan on having it both ways, being proud of my heritage, and sharing it with others, while learning and embracing the best of others.

  "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one".

  Good luck!