Posts by HiddenPimo

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Mo Money ... $$$

by loneranger in

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the money grab continues!!

at a very recent circuit assembly (usa), the accounts overseer gave the typical accounts report for the ca in the early afternoon.

there were 2100 people at the assembly.

Sad stats Willoughby ohio ass hall

by nowwhat? in

just a little fyi 900 attendance.

2 kids baptised and $12000.00 in the hole.

( not my assembly).

HiddenPimo

At the assembly hall in the South East I attend has a budget requirement (Expenses incurred at this assembly) Totaled $30,000.00 with an attendance of 2,100 or so...

The Elders were not happy about this and the Circuit Chairman explained to the audience that these funds were for other areas less fortunate and not a direct cost reflection of our assembly.

I actually appreciated the transparency...

It is still a TITHE no matter how you try to spin it though...

HP

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My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

HiddenPimo

Thanks! I wish there was a safe way to find out who is PIMO in the hall or in circuit or in the state. I know I can’t be the only one.

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My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

HiddenPimo

For some reason I cannot create new topics - I emailed the admin but nothing yet.. so I'm hungry to tell more and get more feedback:

SO-

If the shunning rule were rescinded, how many would leave?

10% -20% - 30% More?

Dream scenario: Everyone is made aware of all the wrongs, the false prophecies / CSA problem / Double Standards -

and they would not shun, how many would jump ship?

My parents are fully aware of the sins of the Org. yet they insist on it being a choice of lesser of the the evils and echoing the sentiments of Peter who said ' Lord who else shall we go to'

So maybe not many..

What say you....?

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Special Mercy Provided to Adulterous Husbands 'if' Elders

by HiddenPimo in

so here is something else that helped me wake up -.

the elders manual - shepherd the flock of god contains a special caveat for elders who have committed adultery some time ago (not sure how many years, 'some time ago' is, but probably based on a complex formula of donations and # of assembly parts given.).

but basically, they can just get a talking to by 2 brothers and then they can keep on keeping on.

HiddenPimo

I was removed for far less sins - and it was due to the recency of it, despite my continued exemplary conduct and field service meeting attendance. So yes Blondie is correct.

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Special Mercy Provided to Adulterous Husbands 'if' Elders

by HiddenPimo in

so here is something else that helped me wake up -.

the elders manual - shepherd the flock of god contains a special caveat for elders who have committed adultery some time ago (not sure how many years, 'some time ago' is, but probably based on a complex formula of donations and # of assembly parts given.).

but basically, they can just get a talking to by 2 brothers and then they can keep on keeping on.

HiddenPimo

Great point SL, this is so true.

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Special Mercy Provided to Adulterous Husbands 'if' Elders

by HiddenPimo in

so here is something else that helped me wake up -.

the elders manual - shepherd the flock of god contains a special caveat for elders who have committed adultery some time ago (not sure how many years, 'some time ago' is, but probably based on a complex formula of donations and # of assembly parts given.).

but basically, they can just get a talking to by 2 brothers and then they can keep on keeping on.

HiddenPimo

So here is something else that helped me wake up -

The Elders Manual - Shepherd the Flock of God contains a special caveat for Elders who have committed adultery some time ago (Not sure how many years, 'some time ago' is, but probably based on a complex formula of donations and # of assembly parts given.)

But basically, they can just get a talking to by 2 brothers and then they can keep on keeping on.

That's the is short of it.

So this is definitely a good old boys club rule to protect the club. If you are doing other things then it's the judicial ax for you.

Click here to read great article on this

Funny in the below capture - where is the scriptural support for this ?

TL/DR - If you are going to cheat on your wife, make sure you are appointed and don't tell anyone once you do cheat for at least a few years. This tricks the Holy Spirit into not revealing the matter.

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So I've been warned about whether I should reveal my feelings of a Deity

by HiddenPimo in

all i have to say about that is that i agree with the following quote attributed to marcus aurelius:.

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HiddenPimo

All I have to say about that is that I agree with the following quote attributed to Marcus Aurelius:

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My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

HiddenPimo

Thank you, everyone, for your comments - It is overwhelming for sure. But I don't toss and turn at night anymore over following something in my heart that I know is false. I have destroyed my Blood Card and am taking care of things behind the scenes so that no one is left wanting.

These are my friends that I have done so much with that is not related to the truth so I want to make sure I don't have any leftovers without closure.

I am thinking of writing a letter and dropping this same letter to all in the body and to my family as an in-person reveal may be too much to handle emotionally.

Time will tell...

I would love to chat in person with some of you but that will have to wait till I am POMO / DA'd

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My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

HiddenPimo

Hello Everyone,

This is my first post. I am Physically In and Mentally Out.

How did I get here? Well I will not be offering a TL/DR version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how I got to see the man behind the curtain.

My story begins at the 2016 Regional Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses. For those that attended (The one with the tear-jerking video at the end of the program with the beautiful music and the family being reunited with dead loved ones, etc.)

I am a middle aged man and that video made me cry like a baby at the convention. I had just lost a dear family member and my emotions were very, very raw. My mother asked me after the convention if I had a way to get that music on .MP3 and I obliged as the self-appointed tech guru (Google Searcher) for my family.

So when my searches found this song to be something not orchestrated by the world renowned Watchtower Symphony, but rather a song 'Eternal Flame' by the group AudioMachine, I was like WTF!?! You see I had doubts before, like how could I serve as an appointed man for over 10 years and all the while struggle with Pornography and Masturbation, and yet be considered for many prestigious roles and responsibilities in the organization. Why was Holy Spirit allowing me to continue in this role and at the same time be sitting on a seat of judgement against other humans condemning them to a life of shunning and shame over their weaknesses?

I was told by the brothers that King David and others were extended mercy and God was being merciful to me and helping me by mercy to see my error. (I was not dealt with Judicially / just counseled by elders and removed from serving). I worked so hard to get back to a good standing pushing doubts aside and finally I was reappointed in 2016. two months later I was at the Regional convention that put me where I am today.

Finding out that you can't watch R rated movies, that the world is evil, controlled by Satan, that violent video games and spiritism are all bad and will result in no Paradise for You. And yet Here, Audio Machine, whose album covers would alone get me a stern talking to in the back room was the same musical group being used by Jehovah's Earthly organization to promote it's ideals. How could this be, I thought? How could they say no short skirts and the video itself used purchased footage showing a woman with an 'immodest dress' that would have again resulted in a poor sister getting a visit from the Modesty police.

Why this affected me so deeply is that I struggle with absolutes. If it's wrong here, it's wrong there. If you can do this now you can do it later. If music and entertainment is of a certain type and considered bad, then it's bad no matter where it is found or used. So how could the organization that i loved be doing this. I felt betrayed, confused, angry. It was a deer in the headlights look that I got from the friends as I actually purchased the eternal flame Album and played in my car out in service to elicit a reaction. With the crazy album cover showing on the screen. And the passengers hearing the music, it didn't compute. Out of fear I kept it to myself and started to think, "What else is going on, that I don't know about"?

I gave little credit this site or ex-jw Reddit, as they must be a bunch of bitter mad apostates. But I did find JW-Facts and that broke the dam loose. I was like Sheriff Brody in Jaws when the Spielberg Camera effect zoomed in as he saw the young boy eaten by a monstrous shark and yet was like did that really happen?

I listened to all the material I could get my hands on (Barbara Anderson and Lloyd Evans/Cedars) And I have religiously looked at this site and loved finding out details about the org from WIFI-Bandit and Atlantis before they say anything at meetings. I have read the Abuse stories and watched the ARC.The pieces of the truth don't fit anymore as the gaps of ignorance have created a void that leaves no reconciliation possible.

I have begun to develop friendships with the world and I have learned that there are shitty people everywhere but that there are also good and loving people everywhere. You choose who you are friends with. I am making that choice. My wife will not go with me on this journey and neither will my parents, but My happiness is more important than living a lie. I will not comfort the small children as they lay in the lower reaches of the Titanic and its certain fate, but I will fight to live and to breath with no more chains and no more guilt.

Whether I believe in Christ / I will enjoy the holidays. I will enjoy my Birthday and others. I will celebrate life because it is the only one we get.

I am preparing my escape, and I will not fade quietly. I will leave like tearing off a band-aid, I will disassociate and that will be that.

This is a start and I will share more/ feel free to ask me anything, I am not afraid, what can man do to me :-)

Much Love and Peace to My Fellow Humans,

HIDDENPIMO