Posts by startingover

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FALSE TEACHINGS? You decide!

by Terry in

below a list is culled from various publications by c.t.

russell who was the mouthpiece of the lord.

1.the second adventists and millerite movement was the fulfillment of bible prophecy.

The Economy for 2010

by oldflame in

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hello all my jwn friends.. .

i felt the need to share what i have heard recently.

i have a very close friend who has a brother who is an economist.

Does anyone else have a hard time figuring out what to believe regarding where this is headed? After spending most of my life living in the JW cocoon, the abundace of information I am now confronted with makes it real confusing.

One thing I will say, I believe that the more things you have that are paid or better off you are.

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EXCERPT: Pastor Russell lay Dying.......

by Terry in

" mother's voice again!

" his mother's voice again!

"listen to me charlie, that is you.

startingover

Great Terry!

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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting

by God_Delusion in

let me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.

i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .

i personally look after 14 trusts.

startingover

Interesting about checks written out to Watch Tower - 2 words. I seem to remember instructions about that.

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God so LOVED the world.........................................WHY? How could He?

by Terry in

the following is the most quoted scripture in the bible:.

john 3:16 (new international version) .

16"for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. here is a question for you.

startingover

Gladiator said

You could go mad - trying to make sense of the sin/grace debate.
It starts off with a false premise and then twists turns and contradicts. It has all been said before so I won't go ranting on.
People believe because they want to. When it no longer suits them they stop. It's much like taking drugs.
Nice synopsis of the situation!
Some on this board leave the JW's and then get involved with another group. I think that adds that extra ingredient which makes it all the harder to see where you may be wrong about your beliefs.

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God so LOVED the world.........................................WHY? How could He?

by Terry in

the following is the most quoted scripture in the bible:.

john 3:16 (new international version) .

16"for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. here is a question for you.

startingover

Seems to me the crux of this whole matter lies in the definition of justice.

Terry wrote "Justice is getting what you deserve and not getting what you don't deserve." That is what justice means in every occasion that I can think of, but some on this board feel they can change that definition when god is involved.

Just shows me that if you want to believe something bad enough, you can make it fit no matter what. Believers seem to do that with the whole bible, if literal doesn't fit, then let's make it figurative. After all, it has to fit somehow. I'm glad I left that all behind at the KH.

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FOOD at the proper time and NEW LIGHT from the Golden Age/Awake!

by Terry in

we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.

their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.

[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.

startingover

I was just looking for quotes like these the other day. Thanks for posting them. To think that god somehow directs an organization that publshes things like this. Amazing!

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Funny double standards used by my wife today

by teel in

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so in an argument we get to the point that the wts has problems.

so what, says her, if you got a meter (or yardstick if you prefer) and one centimeter is missing, are you going to throw it all away?

the same, if from the truth are missing only some pieces, is it not the truth?

startingover

Great comeback! I often wonder if someone would have thrown something like that in my face when I spouted something like that what I would have done. It's easy to think now that it would have made me think, but the truth is probably not. Double standards don't exist until you take the blinders off.

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Floor buffing mishaps?

by JimmyPage in

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ever slipped on the stripper?

had someone track through your wax?

lost control of your buffer?

startingover

Do you think on an ex-mormon thread this thread would get any responses? Only on a ex-JW website. LMAO at the tiger by the tail comment.

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The Wisdom of No Escape and the Path of Loving Kindness- No need for religion in spirituality

by OnTheWayOut in

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reading tmj4477's thread about religion after jw's and reading perry trying to counter ak-jeff on a thread about god and suffering, both of these made me want to post some eastern thought that doesn't fall into the category of "religious" but might help nonetheless.. .

excerpt from the wisdom of no escape (with subtitle: and the path of loving-kindness).

chapter 8: no such thing as a true storyin taoism there's a famous saying that goes, "the tao that can be spoken is not the ultimate tao.

startingover

Good stuff! Thanks for the posts everyone.