I used to give a talk that dealt with Daniels dream, 607 etc, I believe it was entitled "Is it time for god to rule the world". In preparing the talk, I figured there was no way to understand that without some visual help, so when I gave the talk I used a chart that I filled in as I progressed with the talk. I never got any hastle for doing it, but it was that talk and the preparation I did for it that allowed me to pick up on the 607-587 problem which eventually allowed me to figure out the whole scam.
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Kingdom Halls, Assemblies, District Conventions - NO POWER POINT
by Nephilim ini'm a good public speaker - when i have my power point.
this is because i am a very visual person.
when i had my notes everything seemed to get blurry.. it bothers me that there is this unwritten law that you are not allowed to give visual presentations in the kingdom hall... even assemblies equipped with multiple projectors (to view baptism) do not use power point or any type of visual stimulus.. hell even when they have 10,000 plus people they are still working a full day with just a man on stage talking.
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you should not have to choose between your religion and family ! (awake mag quote)
by looloo inlast summer there was a big upset caused by an article (july ,ithink) in the awake about a hindu lady that upset her family by leaving her religion and joining jehovahs witnesses and the ironic thing was it had the above quote in it , that someone should not have to choose between family and religion !
i printed the article off and underlined that section , and recently sent it to my inlaws along with a letter , because they are upset about not seeing their grandchild because they banned their son from the house (he sdisfellowshipped) i am trying to sort the situation out , and i thought they might notice the hypocrisy in the article , however that idea did not work as apparently" there are lies on the internet !
" and father in law was not very happy to receive it , but it is from an awake magazine ,watchtower literature !
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The hypocrisy is beyond words.
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FALSE TEACHINGS? You decide!
by Terry inbelow a list is culled from various publications by c.t.
russell who was the mouthpiece of the lord.
1.the second adventists and millerite movement was the fulfillment of bible prophecy.
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Thaks Terry! Marking for later
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The Economy for 2010
by oldflame inhello all my jwn friends.. .
i felt the need to share what i have heard recently.
i have a very close friend who has a brother who is an economist.
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Does anyone else have a hard time figuring out what to believe regarding where this is headed? After spending most of my life living in the JW cocoon, the abundace of information I am now confronted with makes it real confusing.
One thing I will say, I believe that the more things you have that are paid or better off you are.
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EXCERPT: Pastor Russell lay Dying.......
by Terry in" mother's voice again!
" his mother's voice again!
"listen to me charlie, that is you.
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Great Terry!
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How the WTS hides its cash.....you may find this interesting
by God_Delusion inlet me explain a little about what i do each day...... i work for a company that arranges trusts in the cook islands, turks & caicos, panama, etc.
i know that blondie is against what i am about to say, but i do not just believe that the wts have a variety of trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......i am absolutely positive they do.. .
i personally look after 14 trusts.
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Interesting about checks written out to Watch Tower - 2 words. I seem to remember instructions about that.
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God so LOVED the world.........................................WHY? How could He?
by Terry inthe following is the most quoted scripture in the bible:.
john 3:16 (new international version) .
16"for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. here is a question for you.
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Gladiator said
You could go mad - trying to make sense of the sin/grace debate.
It starts off with a false premise and then twists turns and contradicts. It has all been said before so I won't go ranting on.
People believe because they want to. When it no longer suits them they stop. It's much like taking drugs.
Nice synopsis of the situation!
Some on this board leave the JW's and then get involved with another group. I think that adds that extra ingredient which makes it all the harder to see where you may be wrong about your beliefs.
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God so LOVED the world.........................................WHY? How could He?
by Terry inthe following is the most quoted scripture in the bible:.
john 3:16 (new international version) .
16"for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. here is a question for you.
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Seems to me the crux of this whole matter lies in the definition of justice.
Terry wrote "Justice is getting what you deserve and not getting what you don't deserve." That is what justice means in every occasion that I can think of, but some on this board feel they can change that definition when god is involved.
Just shows me that if you want to believe something bad enough, you can make it fit no matter what. Believers seem to do that with the whole bible, if literal doesn't fit, then let's make it figurative. After all, it has to fit somehow. I'm glad I left that all behind at the KH.
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FOOD at the proper time and NEW LIGHT from the Golden Age/Awake!
by Terry inwe do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.
their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.
[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.
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I was just looking for quotes like these the other day. Thanks for posting them. To think that god somehow directs an organization that publshes things like this. Amazing!
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Funny double standards used by my wife today
by teel inso in an argument we get to the point that the wts has problems.
so what, says her, if you got a meter (or yardstick if you prefer) and one centimeter is missing, are you going to throw it all away?
the same, if from the truth are missing only some pieces, is it not the truth?
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Great comeback! I often wonder if someone would have thrown something like that in my face when I spouted something like that what I would have done. It's easy to think now that it would have made me think, but the truth is probably not. Double standards don't exist until you take the blinders off.