Tec,
Your last post spoke volumes. You beieve because you want to believe. Even if it doesn't make sense, you still make it work because for you it just has to.
hello friends!.
once in a while you hear about fundie atheists, and i have desided to become one.
but i need a bit of advice.. you see, apparently the fundie atheists are as messed up as their worst religious "fundie" counterparts, so i got some expectations to live up to.. i have desided to focus on how i should raise my child, since the religious dickery i hate the most has to do with how children are raised.
Tec,
Your last post spoke volumes. You beieve because you want to believe. Even if it doesn't make sense, you still make it work because for you it just has to.
he was in a very bad motorcycle accident on tuesday and is in the icu.. i think we could all send our oompa good vibes, prayers and healing angels.. .
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Anyone heard anything new about Oompah's situation?
went to a funeral today for a lady that has not been associated with the jw's for many years, and her husband has probably just been on the fringe of association, their children have been out for a long time.
so they had the funeral at a funeral home, the place was full of family, jw's and other friends.
in the newspaper obituary they referred to it as a celebration of life.
No Jam, that is no joke.
went to a funeral today for a lady that has not been associated with the jw's for many years, and her husband has probably just been on the fringe of association, their children have been out for a long time.
so they had the funeral at a funeral home, the place was full of family, jw's and other friends.
in the newspaper obituary they referred to it as a celebration of life.
I've known the people involved in this for quite a while. I think the elder, who knows the husband well, was not quite sure how to handle the situation. He seemed a little uneasy about things and messed up big time reading the scripture from Job (couldn't find the exact verse in his notes after he drew attention to the words of the "prophet" Job). He came across as very unprepared as he messed up naming the family (he was reminded at the end of the talk by a daughter before his prayer) and stumbled through the eulogy prepared by the family as if he had never seen it before.
It was definitely an unusual situation, which I can understand. But the "god bless you" comment really stunned me. There was really no need for him to say that. Of course, it also stunned me when the theme of the DC a few years ago was "Follow the Christ" and also when I walked into a recently remodeled KH less than a year ago and was faced with a big picture of Jesus with his outstreched hand in the entryway. Having been a JW since my birth more than half a century ago these things catch my attention, they just aren't things JW's do.
went to a funeral today for a lady that has not been associated with the jw's for many years, and her husband has probably just been on the fringe of association, their children have been out for a long time.
so they had the funeral at a funeral home, the place was full of family, jw's and other friends.
in the newspaper obituary they referred to it as a celebration of life.
Went to a funeral today for a lady that has not been associated with the JW's for many years, and her husband has probably just been on the fringe of association, their children have been out for a long time. So they had the funeral at a funeral home, the place was full of family, JW's and other friends. In the newspaper obituary they referred to it as a Celebration of Life. I honestly did not know what to expect, but I figured since she had been out for so long the JW thing would probably be on the back burner.
The talk was given by a JW elder, but he did not follow any JW outline. He talked mostly about the woman and her family and her life from a manuscript the family had given him. There were a couple of scriptures at the end, one mentioning the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, and along with the scripture he said that those who accept god are the righteous, and those who do not are the unrighteous, but that everyone gets a resurrection. Interesting. Then he read a scripture from the prophet Job (I never heard of him referred to as a prophet), said a short JW prayer and then invited the audience to the families home. He ended it by saying "God bless you". I thought WTF! Since when is "god bless you" in the JW vocabulary?
It was a wierd experince, even more so at the reception where there was a mixture of family, long time JW's, DF'd people and faded JW's with goatees. I've been to a funeral like this once before, but the god bless you comment really caught my attention.
ive been thinking about the future of the watchtower organization and the challenges it faces in coming decades.
its difficult to address the issue without allowing personal feelings affect the analysis.
many people seem to think that the society will collapse fairly soon, based mostly on the fact that the person dislikes the leadership or cant understand how others can believe the doctrine.
What a great thread! Lots of food for thought, thanks to everyone for their input.
i read a comment on a facebook page after it first came out that they are now capitalizing faithful and discrete slave in the book and not capitalizing he or him when referring to god.
just curious if anyone knows anything about that or saw it on facebook..
I read a comment on a facebook page after it first came out that they are now capitalizing faithful and discrete slave in the book and not capitalizing he or him when referring to god. Just curious if anyone knows anything about that or saw it on facebook.
those who have lived with the opposite sex know of the frustration of being lectured about some triviality.. the toilet seat/paper controversy is among the most inflammatory.. men who forget to put the toilet seat back down inspire anger, rage, resentment and the stern lecture.. the easiest solution is to train the man to always sit down when he goes.. .
others argue over the direction of the toilet paper: forward overlap or backward underlap.. .
how do you deal with these issues and how violent do you become?.
Comments on this thread bring this up, why do men insist on standing to pee in a toilet? I can see it at a bathroom at a gas station, but how about at home or someone else's home? Myself and most every one of my friends sit down to pee in those situations. Seems to be a no brainer if you have ever had to clean a toilet.
he was in a very bad motorcycle accident on tuesday and is in the icu.. i think we could all send our oompa good vibes, prayers and healing angels.. .
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This is not good news. Wish you a speedy recovery Eric, there's more riding to be done.
for those who've had god put something "into your heart", please describe the experience.
please be as vague or specific as you'd like to be.. .
was it unmistakable?.
After reading all the comments about people and god's interaction with them, I just realized something. God has been speaking to me all along. And here I thought it was just my internal voice of reason. Foolish me!