A witness I know posted this on her Facebook...so much commentary I wish I could say
Addison0998
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Fading challenges
by Addison0998 inso the past few months since we’ve been married, we’ve hardly been going to the meetings.
and my mother says that an informer has been calling her to “tell on us” for not going to the meetings.
we’ve told some people that we have been attending meetings in a different area and hall since we are considering moving there.
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Addison0998
So the past few months since we’ve been married, we’ve hardly been going to the meetings. And my mother says that an informer has been calling her to “tell on us” for not going to the meetings. We’ve told some people that we have been attending meetings in a different area and hall since we are considering moving there. And we actually were interested. Well now we are in the process of buying a house in the area, which I don’t regret because it’s beautiful, and in a great area. But one of the reasons we were moving our lives away is because we thought we would be getting away from everyone we’ve been living around for years and starting somewhere where people don’t know or care about us. But recently at the assembly, we found out some of the loud mouth busy bodies who have connections with my parents have friends in the congregation, who they told to “keep an eye on us” and make sure we’re going to the meetings! So I’m starting to see unless we go very very far away, eventually the word is going to get spread back to my family if we aren’t attending. Our plan was to try to fade for 3 years, then have our first baby, and my family get to see that, and have some help, and then when they start getting a little older around 4 or 5, come out to our families about why we don’t want to raise our children in the religion. But I don’t know if we can make it that far. My husband and I cannot hardly stand sitting through the meetings, and we have no motivation to keep up with these appearances. But naturally, we are scared to disassociate. We have no friends outside the organization and are scared of being isolated. Of course having each other is enough, but it’s nice to have other people in your life too. I guess we will just try to deal with the reputation of being inactive. I’m sorry for this long rant, I know people on here have talked to me about this before, and I really appreciate any advice or encourgment.
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Cracking down on neutrality rules
by Addison0998 inmaybe i’m wrong, but when i was younger, when it came to the flag salute and the national anthem, we were allowed to stand with everyone else, as long as we didn’t put our hand on our heart and sing or speak along.
now in the march broadcast apparently witnesses are supposed to make an even bigger show of themselves by staying seated?
aren’t we supposed to be discreet?
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Addison0998
Maybe I’m wrong, but when I was younger, when it came to the flag salute and the national anthem, we were allowed to stand with everyone else, as long as we didn’t put our hand on our heart and sing or speak along. Now in the March broadcast apparently witnesses are supposed to make an even bigger show of themselves by staying seated? Aren’t we supposed to be discreet? Or does jehovah view it as betrayal by even standing in respect? I will defenitly never go to a sporting event with my family or any witness friends I have since I will absolutely never make such a fool of myself like that. -
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Lazy field service
by Addison0998 indid anyone else have really lazy people in their congregation when it came to the field circus.
people where i live are shamelessly lazy, they drive door to door even when the houses are 3 feet apart!
yes even in town houses they drive door to door.
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Addison0998
Did anyone else have really lazy people in their congregation when it came to the field circus. People where I live are shamelessly lazy, they DRIVE door to door even when the houses are 3 FEET apart! Yes even in town houses they drive door to door. And I’m not even talking about when the weather is bad, this is any weather. And after 30 minutes they have to stop and take a coffee break at McDonald’s. And then an hour later another break at Taco Bell. And if the weather is slightly inconvenient or they’ve had enough of their exhausting door to door work, they do obituaries. Which is just making a comment on an online obituary quoting a scripture and the website. And they post about 3 per hour. And this is the “life saving work” their doing. 😂
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Giving fake address to elder
by Addison0998 inso i got married a few weeks ago, living a great life now with my husband, he was definitely the perfect guy for me :) but anyways, we are going to work on slowly fading, going to meetings once a week or every two weeks, and then in a few months move to a hall where nobody knows our families and the elders hardly know each other, and fade out a lot more.
but an elder asked for our address, which we didn’t feel comfortable giving him, because we don’t want any unexpected visits to “shepard” us, when we miss a few meetings, because they already text us when we miss 2 meetings in a row, which we had just gotten back from our honeymoon 🙄 so we “accidentally” gave him the wrong apartment number.
so if they ever come pokin around they will be lost, and if they call or text us we will just have an excuse for not replying.
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Addison0998
So I got married a few weeks ago, living a great life now with my husband, he was definitely the perfect guy for me :) but anyways, we are going to work on slowly fading, going to meetings once a week or every two weeks, and then in a few months move to a hall where nobody knows our families and the elders hardly know each other, and fade out a lot more. But an elder asked for our address, which we didn’t feel comfortable giving him, because we don’t want any unexpected visits to “Shepard” us, when we miss a few meetings, because they already text us when we miss 2 meetings in a row, which we had just gotten back from our honeymoon 🙄 so we “accidentally” gave him the wrong apartment number. So if they ever come pokin around they will be lost, and if they call or text us we will just have an excuse for not replying. Hopefully by that time we will be moved anyways. Have you guys ever done something like this? Do you think we’ll get away with it? I know they probably want it for emergency reasons too, but I’m sure we can handle ourselves, especially since we still have family 15 minutes away.
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Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale
by Addison0998 inso one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.
there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.
he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.
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Addison0998
@stan livedeath my fiancé and I are planning on fading very soon . We are moving to a new congregation where nobody knows our friends or families. We are trying not to lose our families for a few years. But for now I still live with my parents and I’m saving a lot of money by living with them, so going to the meetings is the price I have to pay
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Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale
by Addison0998 inso one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.
there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.
he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.
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Addison0998
@djjegnog I don’t want to be too rude to you because I know you have good intentions and your trying to save us “apostates”. I have read your past post and I can see your really trying to defend Jehovah’s witnesses. Many of us were once in your shoes, trying to defend “gods earthly organization”. But we are all here for a reason, I suggest you either try to open your mind to other people’s perspective, or get off this website. Because aren’t you disobeying the 8 men in New York (governing body) you believe god is using to “guide gods only people”?
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Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale
by Addison0998 inso one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.
there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.
he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.
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Addison0998
So one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “If your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” He has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them. There’s so much ranting I could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man. He has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish European trip.
Consider another example I’ve seen. After me and my fiancé woke up, he started working full time and going to a short trade program that would allow him to get a particular job that would make more money and give us more opportunities to travel (he got the job by the way :)) anyways, when he quit pioneering an elder gave him a very hard time about it and questioned him why he would quit the best privledge one could have? My fiancé stood his ground and explained that he wants to focus on working while he’s young for a while so he can buy a house soon and have a family of his own. The elder was totally flabbergasted and upset, told him he shouldn’t be focusing on things like that, that those things will come in their own time. Wth?! Even if we were still brainwashed, it makes no sense. How will things like that come in it’s own time if you don’t work your ass off for it? He is a grown man about to get married, we don’t want to pay 1000$ a month for rent the rest of our lives and Slave away at a crappy resturaunt with no benefits like the rest of the young couples around us!! Oh but this elder is also a hypocrite. He has a paid for house and car, and is living off a good retirement. And a wife and 2 adult children.
It’s terrible how older people like this in the organization are completely ruining these naive young people’s life, influencing them to deprive themselves of a good life that they themselves are enjoying!!! I wish I could call them out on it.
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Memories from the Edge
by neat blue dog inwhen waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.
can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.
i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.
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Addison0998
I think I had a lot of those, but one of the big ones was the convention with the bunker videos. At that time, I was a die hard witness, I would literally rehearse my arguements defending my religion for opposers in service. But when I saw those bunker videos, my jaw silently dropped, I was very uncomfortable by them. I felt like it was a quite overboard and I actually felt a little embarrassed by it. But I just overlooked it and tried to keep my feelings inside.
And before my pioneering “privlege” was taken, I was starting to get really bored and frustrated going out in service. I was spending way more time with these wacky delusional bigots who talked about health problems waaaay more than I was talking to anyone about the Bible.