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  Who are still in and who has left the JW Org? Why?

  by STRUGGLE in

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  good morning!.

  hi was just wondering who are still active in the organization and do you have doubts?

  those of you who have left, briefly what made you leave, do you have any regrets, and was it hard making new friends?.

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  STRUGGLE

  Hi Mr. Biggs

  I agaree they do not know you very well, meaning they do not know what you are feeling about the org. Thanks for the reponse so far.

  I am off to work, I will check in later this evening.
  Have a good day all.
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  Who are still in and who has left the JW Org? Why?

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good morning!.

  hi was just wondering who are still active in the organization and do you have doubts?

  those of you who have left, briefly what made you leave, do you have any regrets, and was it hard making new friends?.

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  STRUGGLE

  Hi Englishman

  That is why my name is Struggle becuase, I am still confuse.
  Anyway one thing I will do is talk to dis'f people even if I am reinstated. That is not love to cut a person off like that.

  This I learned first hand.
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  Who are still in and who has left the JW Org? Why?

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good morning!.

  hi was just wondering who are still active in the organization and do you have doubts?

  those of you who have left, briefly what made you leave, do you have any regrets, and was it hard making new friends?.

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  STRUGGLE

  Good Morning!
  Hi was just wondering who are still active in the organization and do you have doubts? Those of you who have left, briefly what made you leave, do you have any regrets, and was it hard making new friends?

  As for me I have been dis'f for a few months, and I still attend the meetings. (I also have friends who are dis'f) We do not discuss this board.

  I am however making new wordly friends and doing things with them.
  I sit at the meetings and listen to the talks and think how many people there feel as I do but are afraid to rock the boat.

  Why do I still attend the meetings? Because I am not sure if I am going to leave all together so I am covering all my bases. I still beleive in some of the things they teach, some things my eyes have been open.

  Thanks

  "Still struggling what to do, leave or stay and be quiet"
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  Today is my B-day and here is my brief story

  by STRUGGLE in

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  i am a third generation jw.

  i told him we would talk later.

  later told me i was going to be dis'f.

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  STRUGGLE

  To Gem:
  Thanks. Yes it seems to me they wait for you to get into trouble. Then we you stop attending, they mark you as a bad associate. So very sad. I am sorry you and your family went through. It is sad you did not get the help you needed.

  To: Slip.:
  Thank you. I actually found this post two years ago. Just was working alot. I agree the stories are similar.

  To: Abaddon
  You are right. They do not want you to have any JW friends as well as Non-JW. We were created with the need for companionship. I mean if we can't talk to our so call brothers and sisters what is life. Non-JW.

  To: Bigfloppydog and the others
  Yes the stories do follow a common thread. When you are weak you need help. I see the truth now. Were they really ever my friend? Makes one think how easily you can be toss aside.

  Hope you all had a good day.
  Hugs
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  Today is my B-day and here is my brief story

  by STRUGGLE in

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  i am a third generation jw.

  i told him we would talk later.

  later told me i was going to be dis'f.

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  STRUGGLE

  Thank you all.
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  Today is my B-day and here is my brief story

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am a third generation jw.

  i told him we would talk later.

  later told me i was going to be dis'f.

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  STRUGGLE

  Hello everyone. I am a third generation JW. I did not get baptized until I was in my mid twenties. You see this religion was everything to me, my life. I had very few "wordly" associates.

  Like some JW I got in trouble. I must say the first time the elders were really loving. I live and breathe Jehovah oraganization.

  Here is what happen the second time. I told them I was attracted to a non-witness man. We had a couple of meetings, they told me it was normal, blah, blah, blah. Well sad to say two months later I messed up again. But before that two months, I told them I was weak, I did not know if I could hang on etc. They said they would meet with me once a month to check on me. Did they? No. Ask me if they were concern, if they cared, if they even checked on me? No. I was not giving any talks, no comments at the meeting, next nil field service attendance.

  Fianlly after about eight months a elder came up to me in the hall stating everyone has notice a change in you. Where was the love I ask you. I had three people (not elders) who notice my change and were concern. I told him we would talk later. I did not want to talk then.

  Low and behold about a month later the elders were knocking at my door stating a JC had been set up. Was I in the twilight zone or what? They wanted to know when could they meet with me. People had been talking. (slander more like it) I ask on several occasion who said what, that it was a lie, they would not tell me. We had a few meetings. Finally I got fed up and let them have. I will not go into detail, I did not bite my tongue. After a while you get tired.

  They was so focus on hear say. Why? I still don't know. I had alot of anger.

  Anyway I just got tired and and told them about themselves again. They called me back in and two min. later told me I was going to be dis'f. Did I want to appeal. I stated no. Disfellowshiping shocks you to your senses. Right. It brings you to your senses. You see the so call loving organization for what it really is. That is love kicking someone out. Never mind the elders can make mistakes, we will wait on Jehovah to take care of it. But when publisher mess up, look out. Don't misunderstand me, I did wrong and own up to my mistakes, but it hurts when people you look up to turn their back on you, and are foucus on other people lies, not trying to hear you. Jer. 10:23 applies to all men including the elders.

  I still have a few friends who talk to me. I also have a few friends who are dis'f. One just turn a fourth later and they denied the request. It has been years for her, she is now married. Wow.

  Well I have not made up my mind to read Ray Franz C of C yet.
  I still believe Jehovah is God and Jesus is his son.
  I am a changed women because of this experience. Will I go back. I really don't know at this point.

  Thanks for all the post, I read almost everyday. This place has helped me alot.
  Thanks for listening.
  Sorry if I started rambling on.

  P.S. So some of you are apostate, someone once posted here the meaning of that word. renunciation or abandonment or a former loylaty.
  They also stated that in that case most people who are JW are that, because they left another religion to join. It is amazing how people can twist things and make them seem so very bad. Simon thanks for this board.

  Hugs to each and everyone of you.
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  Part 1: Breaking Ground with Crisis of Conscience

  by Amazing in

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  part 1: breaking ground with crisis of conscience .

  while attending the district convention at the cow palace in san francisco, the jw man who had brought me into the religion, told me that ray franz had resigned from the governing body, and several were disfellowshipped from bethel in a major cleaning out of apostates.

  i was shocked, and asked why ray franz would resign.

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  STRUGGLE

  Excellent piece. I really enjoyed reading it. I am at that point of having my eyes open, but where would I go? One thing I know is, I am not the same person I was before. In a sense I was so naive.

  Thank you for the story Amazing. That is what you are!

  Oh yes I am at that point where you were in the library. Do I dare venture and read the C of C. I have not read it yet. My name says it all.
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  Where were you when you first came here?

  by Xena in

  1. jw
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  i noticed in a couple of threads people discussing the impact this board would have on jw's with doubts coming here and reading the messages.

  it got me to wondering where most people that post here were at...what stage in their jw/ex jw process...when they started reading and/or posting here.

  also curious, when you did come here what was your main focus?

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  Like TR I thought this was a JW board. I was unclear about what was going to happen in an elders meeting. Wondering if I should confess or not.This board really helped me. Here I met people who truly understood.
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  Okay Fess Up: What's Your Handle Mean?

  by Mindchild in

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  okay fess up: whats your handle mean?.

  my handle: mindchild comes from computer scientist and futurist dr. hans moravec: who wrote the book, the future of robot and human intelligence which is a book about when we will be able to construct machines capable of human intelligence and raises the possibility of uploading ourselves (every thought we ever had) into an android body much superior to the human ones we have now.

  i entertain the hope that not only will i live long enough to see this happen, i will transfer myself (the complete essence of what is me) into a body of my own choosing and become immortal if i so choose.

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  STRUGGLE

  I picked my name because at the time I was stuggling with alot of things with the org. The main thing was should I confess a sin to the elders.
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  Between love and "me"

  by beroea in

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  the following is an old post on the ho2.

  its a little long but if you have a little time it tells a story about how to be an elder inside jw .

  between love and me - part i. its late night and im just coming home from another long elder meeting.

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  STRUGGLE

  I enjoyed reading this post. I have not yet found my balance. I agree that there has to be one. I have so much anger for some in the org.

  Likewise I have never looked to a date as to when the end comes. So many are indeed disappointed by us being so "close" to the end and nothing has happen. (1914 generation) That is what happen when you listen to man to much.

  Like this elder I no longer have the heart to try and talk to people about the things the JW say. I still attend the meetings, but so many things have changed for me. My eyes have been open. I still love Jehovah and Jesus. Currently I am dis'f. I am not rushing to go back, I need this time to get my head together.

  Thanks for the post.