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  Secret Letters and files

  by simplesally in

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  2. friends

  it still bothers me very much that they are allowed to keep files on us and that we have no right to see the contents.

  they can choose to look at them or destroy them, whatever they wish, but our wishes about a file with our name on it, about our lives is not unavailable.

  when you change halls a letter is written about you to the next group of men in black.

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  SumnerSloan

  I've been wondering about this matter myself. Are there any elders/former elders posting here who might enlighten me as to just what it is that is contained in those publisher records - especially what is passed on when one transfers to a different congregation? If I am a witness in "good standing" who chooses to switch congregations for personal reasons - possibly due to a personality clash or difference of opinion with one or more of the elders in the former congregation - is this likely to be mentioned to the new elders? Is the letter they write to the new congregation simply one of introduction, stating, yes, he/she is a witness in good standing and here is his/her publisher card - or does it get into personality, perceived weaknesses or areas in need of improvement ... Just how much do these new elders know about me?

  It certainly wouldn't be fair to carry with me throughout eternity the baggage and labels placed on me by some biased, imperfect individual who fancies himself a flawless judge of the human character. Just what is in those records???
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  My Experience Today with My Brother

  by Reborn2002 in

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  2. friends

  well, my brother and his wife came over to my parent's house to visit today while i was home.. to make a long story short, while my brother and his wife were chatting with my mother in the living room, my 1 and a half year old nephew reilly walked into the kitchen where i was making a caesar salad.. he walked over towards me and was smiling, how can any normal adult resist the innocent smile of a child who is your relative?

  i picked him up and gave him a huge hug, and told him i loved him.. as i was holding my nephew in my arms, my brother walked into the room.

  he was smack dab in the middle of an in-depth conversation about jehovah with my mother and his wife, and i admit i was rolling my eyes listening to him spew about the "truth" and "the only means for salvation in the last days of this wicked system" even though when i confronted him with info on the un, blood, russell gravesite, rape changes, exclusivity, etc, he had no response for me because he was dumbfounded and lost for words.

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  Reborn: That's terrible. I'm sure that really hurt. There is absolutely no excuse for such behavior - EVEN if one believes that disfellowshipping IS a scriptural concept! It is mean-spirited and self-righteous! NOWHERE in the scriptures are we given the green light to treat people with such rudeness and cruelty. And there is something wrong with a person who could justify such behavior in his mind and actually believe he is pleasing God by treating someone in such a way! SS
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  6/15 WT Re: Revealing Confidential Matters

  by SumnerSloan in

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  2. friends

  p. 31 - a time to reveal a confidential matter - three little paragraphs about how the "appointed shepherds" sometimes choose not to reveal certain matters to the cong.

  for a time ...).

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  Hopefully someone can - my scanner's on the blink. SS
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  6/15 WT Re: Revealing Confidential Matters

  by SumnerSloan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  p. 31 - a time to reveal a confidential matter - three little paragraphs about how the "appointed shepherds" sometimes choose not to reveal certain matters to the cong.

  for a time ...).

  ??

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  SumnerSloan

  Or the Dateline thing ...?
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  6/15 WT Re: Revealing Confidential Matters

  by SumnerSloan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  p. 31 - a time to reveal a confidential matter - three little paragraphs about how the "appointed shepherds" sometimes choose not to reveal certain matters to the cong.

  for a time ...).

  ??

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  P. 31 - A Time to Reveal a Confidential Matter - Three little paragraphs about how the "Appointed Shepherds" sometimes choose not to reveal certain matters to the cong. for a time ...)

  ???
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  Silliest thing that Witnesses told you was wrong?

  by gilwarrior in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are two things.

  in the early and mid 80s there were witnesses saying that the cartoon characters the smurfs were not acceptable for witnesses.

  i had two smurf cartoon books and my mother made me throw them away.

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  Am I the only one that gave up M&M's - for YEARS! - because they "contained blood"!?

  How about Star Wars - and the "force"? Or Fantasia (with that evil little Sorceror - Mickey somebody ...)?

  And while we're on THAT subject - I have known Witnesses who have never experienced the joy of seeing the inside of Disney's "Haunted Mansion."

  Eating turkey if it happened to be on that "certain Thursday in November" which the world refers to as "Thanksgiving."

  By the way, what's the difference between a "party" and a "get-together"?

  How about spending my own money to purchase my magazines for field service, only to be told that when I receive reimbursement from the householder, THAT money should go to the Society via the contribution box.

  And a resounding "DITTO" to the previously mentioned "Bless you" to a sneeze, and the innocent little good will "toast."

  Or that a woman shouldn't be working full-time when she COULD be pioneering instead.

  Not to "butt into someone else's business" when I hear a child being abused in the KH restroom!

  And especially -- That I shouldn't pray for someone who is disfellowshipped - even if it happens to be my own mate, or one of my children!??

  ... to name a few.
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  Need a laugh?? (more)

  by closer2fine in

  1. social
  2. humour

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=866419376 .

  closer .

  solid stone is just sand and water, baby.

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  SumnerSloan

  $71.88 with 4 days left, and 30 bids!!! Wish I'D thought of this!!!
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  After 70 years of sacred service........

  by Makena1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for a privileged few, you get an article with your lifes story published in the wt.

  most at least receive a grand send off with a kh memorial service.. my father passed away a couple of weeks ago.

  he was just shy of his 89th birthday.

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  Richie says: <<If Jesus would have been at the funeral service or at the Kingdom Hall, would he have shunned anybody who is "supposed" to be shunned or ignored?>>

  No, but they probably would have disfellowshipped him for speaking to them! (Or for claiming to be God's channel/mediator - one or the other!) LoL :-(
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  Thoughts....

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good evening all, .

  this is just some more "stuff" printed in the kingdom ministry by the jesus-led incorporated printing business, for all the publishers who work for them and contribute to making them worth multi-millions to read and follow before attending an assembly/convention.. 5/99/ km.

  lately, building managers and food vendors in the facilities where our conventions are held have observed some brothers leaving the auditorium to purchase food from street vendors and fast-food establishments nearby.

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  For those of you who haven't been to a convention in awhile, it should be noted that the WT Society no longer provides food - we have to bring our own (at least that's the way it is in U.S.). So they're not making a whole lot of money from the food angle anymore.

  On the other hand, for some, those food vendors come in really handy, particularly when you're far from home, living in a motel/hotel, possibly without a car to run out and pick up a hoagie at the 7/11 to take into the convention ... or are getting woozie or sick and need something in your stomach ... or have a kid kicking up a real fuss b/c he's hungry ... or just plain didn't have time to pack a book bag -- and food pack -- and cooler -- AND still keep up with your daily Bible reading and reviewing the day's highlights with your family.
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  Elderette Stories

  by SumnerSloan in

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  2. friends

  simplesally's mention of the "elderette" making her own rules for streetwork, got me thinking: does anyone have any amusing (or more likely, totally obnoxious!

  ) elderette stories to share?

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  SimpleSally's mention of the "elderette" making her own rules for streetwork, got me thinking: Does anyone have any amusing (or more likely, totally obnoxious!) elderette stories to share?