here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.
i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.
but i'll single out some peeps in particular.
And (((((sunchild))))) from a fellow Michigander
Hugs received and returned. Thank you. Where in Michigan are you, anyway?
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
the site changed but the atheist proseletyzing continues.
isn't it odd how our two norwigs compliment each other in their attacks on god and the bible?
well, simon, you now have the honor of hosting a platform for the true apostates to spew their anti-god venom.. this kind of thing is sadly typical of those who leave the wts.
Quester,
Sunchild,
Not all of Christianity is the same.
There are Christian gay people and Christian
religions that accept them.
I know. I was using the term "real Christian" in the context which our not-so-new friend here meant it. You know, the Bible-believin', Jesus-is-my-savior, everyone's-goin'-to-Hell-but-us types. Mom even told me once (while I was trying to test the waters) that she believes gay people are born that way, but that they should never act on their feelings because it's a terrible sin. If that doesn't give you some idea of how deep in the Fundy cesspool she is.... And I worry that it'll get worse, not better. But then again, I got out of the JWs, so hopefully, Mom will come around, too.
Spong calls us "believers in exile",
cuz we don't fit in with mainstream Christianity.
But I think things are changing.
I hope they are, but my optimism tends to wax and wane.
Anyway, thanks for the post and your support.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.
i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.
but i'll single out some peeps in particular.
{{{Hippikon}}}
Don't worry about it too much. Nobody's mentioned me, either.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
we(tm)re standing for the truth that negroes can change.
a recent gathering of christians invoking god(tm)s old testament standards, a nationwide ex-negro ministry, drew more than 850 people to london, england, to proclaim that hope for change is possible for those still struggling with acting like a negro.
thousands of former colored people can celebrate a new life because someone cared enough to share with them the truth of god's healing love.
BTW, I always wanted to mention to you that I like your website. Your artwork looks fantastic. Keep up the good work!
Really? Thanks! I've never really considered myself that good an artist, so it always comes as a pleasant surprise when people tell me I am.
I'll probably get back to working on my site in a couple of months. Right now, I have another project that's been eating up most of my spare time and at least 95% of my creative energy.
No misunderstandings here sweetie. I just wanted to explain to u guys what was up.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
we(tm)re standing for the truth that negroes can change.
a recent gathering of christians invoking god(tm)s old testament standards, a nationwide ex-negro ministry, drew more than 850 people to london, england, to proclaim that hope for change is possible for those still struggling with acting like a negro.
thousands of former colored people can celebrate a new life because someone cared enough to share with them the truth of god's healing love.
You guys took my post out of context. I was attempting to be funny, too.
And now, I feel like I should apologize for apologizing. I was worried that I had upset you somehow; I tend to fret over that sort of thing and always want to try and make it better.
that explains the lame ass joke at the end of the post. Maybe I shudda made a declaration of intent, huh?
<g> Don't worry about it. I feel like I'm a master of being misunderstood sometimes, so you're not alone.
Huggles,
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
we(tm)re standing for the truth that negroes can change.
a recent gathering of christians invoking god(tm)s old testament standards, a nationwide ex-negro ministry, drew more than 850 people to london, england, to proclaim that hope for change is possible for those still struggling with acting like a negro.
thousands of former colored people can celebrate a new life because someone cared enough to share with them the truth of god's healing love.
I think you are wrong. If Kent meant this as a joke he would never have included my name in the post, point blank. When he did that,he made it a personal matter.
Hm. In that case, you could be right: it was meant to be inflamatory, at least for the people he singled out. But it's also possible that he was only joking.
I'm sorry, I didn't really pay attention to the names. I just remembered reading this article somewhere else, either Landover Baptist or The Onion, so I didn't read Kent's version very carefully. It seemed like most of the reaction here was to the paralleling of racial discrimination with discrimination based on sexual orientation, and that's what I responded to.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
we(tm)re standing for the truth that negroes can change.
a recent gathering of christians invoking god(tm)s old testament standards, a nationwide ex-negro ministry, drew more than 850 people to london, england, to proclaim that hope for change is possible for those still struggling with acting like a negro.
thousands of former colored people can celebrate a new life because someone cared enough to share with them the truth of god's healing love.
Hi, Shelby!
As for Lisa's comments and yours about blacks and homosexuality, I think Lisa MEANT that if you WANTED to hide your orientation (not necessarily would or needed to, but WANTED to), you could. However, unless one is extremely pale, one cannot 'hide' being black.
And my point was that I don't understand how that's relevant. The entire point of the satire Kent posted was to illustrate how silly it was to discriminate against people. If it's wrong to discriminate against Black people -- who cannot change their color -- why is it any more "acceptable" to discriminate against gay people, who also cannot change who they are? That was the point, I think. Nothing more; nothing less. JanH articulated this better than I probably could.
Moreover, I think it's actually more stressful to have an "invisible" trait that people might hate you for. Keeping such a very big secret can be quite a drain, with all the fear of being discovered and having to pretend you're something you're not. I guess that's why, since I live in a liberal climate, I don't make any effort to hide who I am... except, unfortunately, in front of my own parents.
It just seems to me that the PROBLEM is people using race as a means to 'inflame' others. On both sides.
Kent should have stated his INTENT when posting such a provocative statement.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
we(tm)re standing for the truth that negroes can change.
a recent gathering of christians invoking god(tm)s old testament standards, a nationwide ex-negro ministry, drew more than 850 people to london, england, to proclaim that hope for change is possible for those still struggling with acting like a negro.
thousands of former colored people can celebrate a new life because someone cared enough to share with them the truth of god's healing love.
One of the reasons being, if you or anyone else wishes to keep your homosexuality a 'secret' for even a little while for even a small purpose from a group of people, you can do that. Can you leave your house with white skin?
I didn't expect most straight people to understand this, but for me, it IS about the same thing.
How would YOU feel if you needed to hide your true self from people for fear of being fired from your job, evicted from your home, beaten, or even killed? It DOES happen! How would YOU feel if you had to hide your love relationships from your own family instead of celebrating them? How would YOU feel if when everyone else was talking about their significant others around the water cooler, you had to keep quiet for fear that the wrong people might hear? How would YOU feel if you had to be subjected to people's ignorant "fag" and "lezzie" jokes, which DO hurt every bit as much as racist ones!
As a Black lesbian, I think I have every right to say, yes, it's a comparable pain! But only it's illegal to fire people just for being Black. Sure, I can hide my lesbianism, but that does NOT make it go away. And it isn't right that I should have to.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
we(tm)re standing for the truth that negroes can change.
a recent gathering of christians invoking god(tm)s old testament standards, a nationwide ex-negro ministry, drew more than 850 people to london, england, to proclaim that hope for change is possible for those still struggling with acting like a negro.
thousands of former colored people can celebrate a new life because someone cared enough to share with them the truth of god's healing love.
Just for the record, Kent, I got the joke. And I think the reaction you got proves just the point you were trying to make.
Everyone, just substitute "homosexual" for "Negro" and I think you'll understand.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.
i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.
but i'll single out some peeps in particular.
Hm, I'm almost afraid to post anything here because I know I'll have to leave people out, and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. So, before that happens, I just want to thank everyone here simply for being themselves. I've probably read something that's been posted by just about everyone who's posted here since I signed on, and it's good that there's so much variety. The constant appearance of new stuff and the nice mix of different ideas are what keep me coming back.
Seems like all the usual suspects have been named already, so I'll just say, "What everybody else said." That, and:
JanH, believe it or not, I like you. I don't always like the way you go about things (you do sometimes give the impression that anyone who isn't an all-or-nothing atheist must have something wrong with them), but I do like you. I really do enjoy reading your posts on the Bible, [the Xtian version of] God, etc., because the historical and scientific facts you present are very interesting. It's just the "opinion" stuff where we might disagree.
Farkel, I don't even know why I'm telling you this since it probably doesn't mean much coming from someone who likely means nothing to you. But I've enjoyed your posts since the H2O days. You're smart, articulate and funny, and your writing is a pleasure to read. Thank you for all of your good work.
Anyone who's ever posted something for me (or sent me a rare e-mail) that I didn't answer, I apologize. I know it's awful manners, but I really don't do it on purpose, and I'm not trying to ignore anyone. I always want desperately to say something more meaningful/clever/useful than just, "Hey, thanks!" -- and usually end up not saying anything. I have the same problem in real life.
And for all my fellow "invisible posters" out there that no one has mentioned by name, hang in there. Even if feel like no one cares about what you have to say, it's a pretty safe bet that someone somewhere has read and appreciated something that you've written. Just keep on thinking, caring and posting. You never know what the result will be, even if you're never told.
*Rochelle.
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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."
