Posts by ÁrbolesdeArabia

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Watchtower honors Jehovah's Witness Elders responsible for Candice Conti and Menlo Park Fiascos

by Balaamsass in

this weekend was the convention for the southern san francisco bay area.

it was held at the santa clara convention center in the silicon valley http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/ which is an improvement over the old s.f.

cow palace which is still used..just not as much.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

So much for the "Holy Spirit" cleaning out anything that threaten's the continuity of Jehovah's Earthly Organization.

Assembly's are one of the most powerful gathering to create even more doubts that are plaguing the thinking dubs minds. How do you think I felt when I saw elder "most-holy-pious" giving a talk? I know things the friends don't know (his fetish for porn, pathological liar, thief, crook, deeply evil), their holy man does in private, his public drunkeness does cause anyone to bat an eye. His wife is a very freaky bird, she has this strange relationship with her older brother that creeps me out (french kisses him) yuck!

I think Jehovah is giving all his people a clear sign of his is rejection of this self-appointed Slave. The large amount of fraud that exist in "Field Service Reports", the ghoulish drones trying to obey the flickering signal Patterson is beaming out!

Jesus Christ is alive and well, he is the mediator of all mankind and Jehovah can save anyone, anywhere! I think of Rehab who Jehovah saved, Jehovah showed mercy on the Gibeonites (I could see the righteous elders trying to kill them! overstepping Jehovah and Jousha's commanments made with the Levites).

I am tired of hearing how good JWs are, maybe real "Witnesses of Jehovah" are very good people, I don't find this in the Watchtowerites.

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Lance Armstrong

by Hortensia in

i've been following the lance armstrong debacle, although i'm not really interested in sports.

it's interesting how at first it was hard to believe that he was guilty of doping, because of his public image.

it seems, though, that the evidence is overwhelming.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Where do I buy what Lance was using, I could use an extra gust of wind, "Three Hour Energy" drinks don't work!

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My JC coming up tomorrow for causing division Rom 16:17,18 - wish me well!

by Healthworker in

jw
friends

hi, brothers and friends!.

would make me happy if you say a prayer or wish me good luck!.

been an exciting day, training with you guys before the rumble in the jungle tomorrow!.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Our Lord said we would be hated for "telling the truth" "bearing witness against false men", stick to your Bible based facts and you will be ok. Your in my prayers, please remain calm, kind and respectful with a spirit of love! Allow your accusers to bring forth their evidence and work on each point at a time. Don't allow anyone to throw out two or three mattters at once, it's only going to confuse you and dilute the issues. Stick to one issue and ask for time, if you need to gather more facts to defend yourself.

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How would your ex-witness friends describe you "fact or fiction" wise? 100 worlds or less.

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

start this ball rolling, i asked a "holy roller jw" what happend to brother "missing"?.

"his feelings were hurt and he bruised so easy, you'all know the "truth" ain't for weak people!

" bingo, she surmised all this and never talked to brother "missing".

ÁrbolesdeArabia

I made a mistake thinking this thread would help the healing process, let's let this one die, please! Their opinion of us really has no bearing on our reality and dreams, the farther we throw their ideals, viewpoints and thoughts from our minds, the stronger we become! I am sorry and and ask you please, to let this thread die a quick death!

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How would your ex-witness friends describe you "fact or fiction" wise? 100 worlds or less.

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

start this ball rolling, i asked a "holy roller jw" what happend to brother "missing"?.

"his feelings were hurt and he bruised so easy, you'all know the "truth" ain't for weak people!

" bingo, she surmised all this and never talked to brother "missing".

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Start this ball rolling, I asked a "holy roller jw" what happend to brother "missing"?

"His feelings were hurt and he bruised so easy, you'all know the "truth" ain't for weak people!" Bingo, she surmised all this and never talked to brother "missing". (fiction)

Fact: He could not reconcile the evil actions of all the "good men and women", the strong type who enjoy playing the prince and princesses over Jesus flock, thus he left!

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Favorite JW Urban Legends

by Christ Alone in

what are your favorite urban legends that you heard as a jw?.

here's mine:.

a brother, through his work, was asked to give a speech to the united nations.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

These urban legends are still very popular in my former "circuit area".

JW'S ONLY NEED APPLY

From the stage, "the TO tells the dubs how several employers posted jobs asking the employees be Jehovah's Witnesses, these employers knew where they could find honest men and women with integrity. All the vacant jobs were filled with Pioneers, Auxillarys and Regular lay-people dubs and everyone lived happy ever after."

Problem, posting a "Help Wanted" in the Classifieds Sections of a paper requesting you be a certain religion, poses legal problems.

The Nazi War Hero: A traveling overseer was going door to door accompanied by an elderly brother, after receiving a "brush-off" by the angry householder, she complains "You Jehovah Witnesses don't go to War! What if the Nazi's had one the War in WW2, I lost five sons in battle for your freedom! You need to be ashamed of yourselves for sitting back while my children paid the blood-price."

The elderly brother who was silent during the whole time, stops following the lead of the TO who is walking away from the door. Eldery brother says "Guten Morgen Frau Jones, es tut mir leid, verlieren Sie Ihre Söhne im Krieg(good morning mrs jones, I am sorry you lose your sons in war!)

I fought in World War 2, I killed twenty men with my bare hands and personally decorated by Hitler. I was your religion during the "Great War", you should have prayed I was a Jehovah Witness, maybe I kill your sons, maybe not, if all were JWs during WW2 your sons still be alive?"

A great change of heart took place with her next time in field service, she requested our German brother to bring literature.

Flying money in the wind

Four Pioneers were working the dry areas of Colorado, driving on faith and fumes they pull over near a gas station. Nobody has any money, so they say a prayer and walk around the sage brush, "a fifty dollar bill" fly's in front a sister-pioneer and the wind shoots the "bill" up her dress. "Fifty dollars was a fortune in 1952, and Jehovah made sure our sisters knew he was sending them manana from Heaven."

I hated this story, so much for starving children, why can't falling coins land on their villages?

Don't Eat The Candy Children

"Children you should never eat candy a householder hands you, Dear Sister Burns learned the hard way. Sister Burn's Bible-Study had a dish of peanuts sitting on the coffee-table, overweight and hungry Burn's scoops by the hand full, this bible-study's peanut dish. "Yummy peanuts, Sister Burn's compliments her Study how yummy them peanuts are!

Sister Burn's head's to the bathroom and"the Study" pull's out a bag of chocolate covered peanuts, sucks the chocolate off the peanuts, and puts them in another dish. Mortified, the young sister ask's the Bible-study the question and receives the affirmative reply "I hate peanuts, so i suck them off the chocoate and leave them in dishes like this" Sister Burn's yummy peanuts were "spit-backs" from a crazy old lady, moral of the story, "don't eat candy from strangers!"

The burning matress was made of aspestos, your earlier question? Oregon and Northern California has their fair share of "screaming, yelling, cursing, flying, levitating-mattresses that "spit and hissed", refused to burn until a prayer was said by the annoited.

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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause immediate irreparable harm and hardship

by cedars in

a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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cedars.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

jws, sensationalism creates quick or slow hits depending on the content. We live in a time of "publish or die irrelevant!", the author gets better at writing with investigative journalism or turns into "Fox and Friends". Don't hate the player, hate the game!

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Could you live with not talking to your JW family for the rest of your life?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

one of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit.

as lady-lee wrote about oompa, i thought of this topic, the society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of jehovah after they repent of their sins" .

i know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual jw family, i am willing to bet, wager that "jw-hatred" exceeds the worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Just to add something else to the comment, let's contrast Mark Chapter 7 with the religion of "true brotherly ????"

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Jesus Teaches about Inner Purity

1One day some Pharisees and teachers of religious law arrived from Jerusalem to see Jesus. 2They noticed that some of his disciples failed to follow the Jewish ritual of hand washing before eating. 3(The Jews, especially the Pharisees, do not eat until they have poured water over their cupped hands, a as required by their ancient traditions. 4Similarly, they don't eat anything from the market until they immerse their hands b in water. This is but one of many traditions they have clung to-such as their ceremonial washing of cups, pitchers, and kettles. c )

5So the Pharisees and teachers of religious law asked him, "Why don't your disci ples follow our age-old tradition? They eat without first performing the hand-washing ceremony."

6Jesus replied, "You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,

'These people honor me with their lips,

but their hearts are far from me.

7Their worship is a farce,

for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.' d

8For you ignore God's law and substitute your own tradition."

9Then he said, "You skillfully sidestep God's law in order to hold on to your own tradition. 10For instance, Moses gave you this law from God: 'Honor your father and mother,' e and 'Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.' f 11But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, 'Sorry, I can't help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.' g 12In this way, you let them disregard their needy parents. 13And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others."

14Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. "All of you listen," he said, "and try to understand. 15It's not what goes into your body that defiles you; you are defiled by what comes from your heart. h "

http://nlt.scripturetext.com/mark/7.htm

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Could you live with not talking to your JW family for the rest of your life?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

one of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit.

as lady-lee wrote about oompa, i thought of this topic, the society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of jehovah after they repent of their sins" .

i know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual jw family, i am willing to bet, wager that "jw-hatred" exceeds the worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

one of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit. As Lady-Lee wrote about Oompa, I thought of this topic, the Society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of Jehovah after they repent of their sins"

I know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual JW family, I am willing to bet, wager that "JW-Hatred" exceeds the Worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure. JW-Hatred is absolute, when a person sins against one of the "most holy jws, all hell breaks loose!" Pioneer vs Pioneer, super spiritual family vs super-spiritual family, one thing I have learned, JWs are the best grudge keepers of all religions!

What of the brothers and sisters who were stumbled by wicked men and women? What of the countless errors made by men who assume the role of secondary-mediator? Jesus said we would loose family, friends for obeying his words, what have we done by following men's commandments as God's written rules? A large group of our friend here are going through this nightmare, and the heartless, devoid of mercy "apostles of new york" don't care, they want you to submitt your Christian freedom and obey them. I am pondering this question as it's the next logical step in my personal Road Map over the next year.

My JW family are some of the most wicked men and women, worse than all my worldy friends I gave up for all the elusive good friends and family I would inherit once I became part of the "group". I am tired of all the judgemental kooks whose family lives are so screwed up, yet they are ready to point out what they preceive I am doing wrong. I grow restless with emotionally, spiritually and mentally sick people ruling the Island. So far I don't miss these people, is there something odd with me?

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Patterson on the line: Watchtower claims that paying cash bond would cause immediate irreparable harm and hardship

by cedars in

a new article for those who are interested.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/patterson-on-the-line-watchtower-claims-that-paying-cash-bond-would-cause-immediate-irreparable-harm-and-hardship.

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cedars.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Just a legal tactic, I've seen this trick used by different entities beings sued for large amounts of money (Apple's recent lawsuits had companies printing statements almost identical to what the Society is saying) The Society has plenty of funds to weather this mild storm, they are not going out of business any time soon. We all know why they seperated into different corps years ago, creating lots of barriers to get to the root of the problem.

As a corporation, Cedars look for any kind of data regarding "Going Concern" and their management's assessment of how they will deal with the possibility of losing this lawsuit. Real Estate in New York, (the high end stuff) is very valuable and the Org always found ways to buy their buildings for nothing!