Happy B-day you cranky sucker!
ÁrbolesdeArabia
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A very Grumblecakes B-Day Celebration!! OR big steps in small packages.....
by grumblecakes inso right before my first halloween was my first off-the-chain birthday!
and i decided to commenorate it!.
so regardless of your personal preferance regarding tattoos i think we can pretty much agree its our own skin!
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New JW Apologist here
by Christ Alone ini was a jw for a lot of years, like many of you.
i wanted to try an experiment and try out my jw apologist chops.
since we have such a hard time finding a jw apologist that can argue well, i thought i'd give it a whirl.
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CA: How do you view Salvation based on works, Hell-fire, the Trinity? Let's have some fun!
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As a Watchtower Reader on Sunday, did you ever have to use the bathroom?
by sd-7 ini just had a dream last night that i was watchtower reader again on a sunday.
it was weird because the color scheme seemed like a zombie-green.
my old coboe was conducting the study and he seemed like kind of a jerk.
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wha happen: I swear on my life, after this brother went to the bathroom and took a dump, the entire Kingdom Hall stunk worse than a skunk.
I have no idea what this man ate (too old for gastric-bypass surgery) but the Kingdom Hall smelled like death. People were caughing and mothers took their kids out, you had to have been there.
Let me clarify the "gastric bypass surgery" remark, we had two sister go in for this procedure, something causes the food to become partial disgested and this create's a stench that far exceeeds normal pooh-pooh or farts, it's very sick "miasma??" when your packed like a sardine with these two sisters with IBS. :)
Using the urinal with wireless microphones turned on, that's priceless too "Someone needs their prostate examined (ouch, no fun!) the old sister whispered in my ear, I busted my gut!"
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As a Watchtower Reader on Sunday, did you ever have to use the bathroom?
by sd-7 ini just had a dream last night that i was watchtower reader again on a sunday.
it was weird because the color scheme seemed like a zombie-green.
my old coboe was conducting the study and he seemed like kind of a jerk.
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We had old 80 years run and sit on the toilet during the reading with wireless microphones! You could hear the "plop. poof-boom, bamm bamm of things pouring into the toilet!". Nothing like hearing the plumbing of a brother using the urinal over the microphone, funny as the Hall hears the pee streaming out in spurts! LOL!
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Deprogramming kids when JWs came knocking
by RayPublisher inso i had my two daughters with me this weekend (their jw mom has them the next one) and it was saturday morning around 10am and i said let's have a short "daddy school" on how to do research on the internet.
so they were plopped on each side of me and my laptop and i was inbetween and was showing them how you can type in "jehovah's witnesses" or "watchtower society" and get lots of vids off youtube on these things and that they can always do their own research if they have any questions on the things they hear at the kh when their mother takes them.. so we were watching one and right then there was a knock at the door and it was two teenage jw girls (from a neighboring cong) offering the magazines... very funny!
my oldest got rid of them and they were giggling and laughing about how weird it was that they would show up right then.. the jws are popping up everywhere in my life lately, ie, at the store, at the mall, at the gym, etc.
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Keep the beard you sexy beast, the hell with them!
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The Judicial Committee Gossiping Reach, Two or Four Counties? Three!
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhow far does the "barking chain" of gossip spread from one kingdom hall's judicial committee to another kingdom hall?
the record to my personal knowledge (three counties away 100 miles.
)is i had a brother call me and ask if "brother so-and-so was going to be disfellowshiped on thursday night", he heard it from our cobe.
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I think some of you missed my point, I should have clarified things better. How about "There different men who share confidential talk with their wives, this is a fact that's undisputable." "Some wives do pry information from their husbands so they can appear "in the know" with their peer groups (A Jezebel Factor) and insult other good elder wives and friends in the Kingdom Hall. This makes these women feel more secure in their personal assessment of their family's spiritual holinesss.
Ladies, have you met a real life Jezebel bitch in your life? We brothers know a "Diatrophes, Nicolaus, Ahab,", and a Judas Iscariot who is quick to sell us out for theocratic advancement.
long-haired-girl: Crazy ideas are going viral, Witnesses are not the best source checkers. I think somone read a tinny bit of the historical "Under-ground Railway", talked to a crazy brother in San Diego who believed we would be put in caves the way Jehovah's prophet Elijah was kept, feed with meat from the ravens. None of this makes sense, as Jehovah Seer told his faithful (at the time) ancient people "Stand back and see the Salvation of Jehovah" Jehosaphat was told. The ancient Christians who fleed to Pella, were not living in caves or escaping "in the underground". Some Witnesses are toning down the message and moving towards a "Rapture-End Times" message, more palatable to new members.
There sure are plenty of mean and evil people who spread gossip, this does not feel like Love. Witnesses love is "Scared Straight" love, you earn love by following everyone elses ideas and keep your mouth shut, for fear the prisoners or jailer will scream at you!
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Even JW Apologists Are Having Doubts.
by Bangalore inhere is a blog article by a active jw who is worried about the recent developments in the wt and its implications.
looks like even some loyal jw's are waking up.. .
http://meletivivlon.com/2012/10/31/are-we-nearing-a-tipping-point/.
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How Pro-WT is this apologist?
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"He who loves me will OBEY my commandments...
by AGuest into the household of god, israel, that is on jw.com, and all those who 'got with' them:.
may you have peace!.
because israel has, at this 'season' fallen asleep with regard to many 'things' that our lord, the son of god, jah-eshua mischa-jah ("jah saves"; messiah - "chosen of jah"), 'commanded' us to teach others (matthew 28:20), i am compelled by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies (psalm 68:4), that is in me, by means of my lord, to remind israel of one of such commandments.. on the night that he was put to death in the flesh, our lord gave a commandment, to which he stated "keep doing this in remembrance of me.
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Thank Dear Brother Aguest,
I do enjoy your gifted writing and may Jehovah's love through his Son bring you peace and harmony! Can we stick to your beautiful thread and avoid snippets from individuals whose historical perspective of past times is tweaked? There are plenty of threads they can have a "meet and greet on Topic!", don't allow your thread to be derailed off track, it's a wonderful topic and your insights are refreshing as you qoute Scriptures that are the "Waters of Life!" Peace to you dear friend!
"Do not get involved in foolish discussions about spiritual pedigrees or in quarrels and fights about obedience to Jewish laws. These things are useless and a waste of time. (Titus 3:9)
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Deprogramming kids when JWs came knocking
by RayPublisher inso i had my two daughters with me this weekend (their jw mom has them the next one) and it was saturday morning around 10am and i said let's have a short "daddy school" on how to do research on the internet.
so they were plopped on each side of me and my laptop and i was inbetween and was showing them how you can type in "jehovah's witnesses" or "watchtower society" and get lots of vids off youtube on these things and that they can always do their own research if they have any questions on the things they hear at the kh when their mother takes them.. so we were watching one and right then there was a knock at the door and it was two teenage jw girls (from a neighboring cong) offering the magazines... very funny!
my oldest got rid of them and they were giggling and laughing about how weird it was that they would show up right then.. the jws are popping up everywhere in my life lately, ie, at the store, at the mall, at the gym, etc.
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Imagine the shock on the JWs when they see you in their comfort-zone! "Arg, Apostate, plug my ears and run" well, not exactly with the young kids who showed up pushing the magazines they probably did not read.
If you shave your beard they might feel more at ease, I remember as a kid it was those scary bearded exJWs who brought back pictures of King Nebuc(whatever) during his time of eating grass outside his kingdom in Babylon. Apostates are creating a new imagine on Social Media, the Society is getting flustered from the message of their preceived enemy if we don't act like raving lunatics.
I thought of these scriptures while watching your videos you created: "these are not the sayings of a mad man", "this man has done nothing deserving of death", "You too have not been mislead by this man, none of the Scribes and the Pharisees have put faith in him, have they?" "no man has ever spoken like that man".
You showed by your video you have a gift and talent to be gentle, prove your accusers liars, (this could change the minds of those, including your ex-wife) who really are the lying murmering, back-biting ones, you are a victim of legalism. I hope you can seperate these personas for your two kids sakes, don't prove the in-laws and ex-wife's case and overload their brains at their fragile age. You have the rest of your life to teach them the Truth.
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The Judicial Committee Gossiping Reach, Two or Four Counties? Three!
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhow far does the "barking chain" of gossip spread from one kingdom hall's judicial committee to another kingdom hall?
the record to my personal knowledge (three counties away 100 miles.
)is i had a brother call me and ask if "brother so-and-so was going to be disfellowshiped on thursday night", he heard it from our cobe.
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Ray, your's goes far past the 100 mile line, you mentioned that in your video and my heart broke because it's something you have to experience first hand, to know exist in the Organization we thought had boundaries. Freedom of Conscience does not come cheap with the Organization, the young ones need to know there are men who document everything and share confidential talk (not all men). I hope you are holding your head up high, it could not have been easy what you did and the nobody should have to make the sacrfices you had to.
Instead of following procedure, some brother decided to kept logs of the exact sins of wrong doers going back forty years. Zealous Secretary had the "Sin-Book" at his house for posterity sakes. One example of his overzealous notes were "sister (name) committed fornication with brother (name) oral sex, Jose Cuervo, three times in one night". This is not suppose to happen, there are forms that need to be filled out, not this descriptive and detailed and often they can be dealt with in-house.
Zid, boredom and "playing the Prince over your brothers and sisters, showing how "dialed in you are!" authenticates evil men in front of their followers!