either in your neighborhood, in the ministry, on vacation?
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I don't feel comfortable talking with them anymore, it's so simple in their tiny minds how I can be "back on the road to life if I could humble myself and follow the faithful slave".
I watchted the Org zap educated men and women of their critical thinking skills, blinding following the crazy stuff printed in the Watchtower. Is this a normal feeling after over a year of avoiding them to not want to talk to former JW friends and family? It's creeping me out to talk with them?
angus jones has been baptised a sda in a end times conspiracy theory sda church and is telling people not to watch two and a half men because its filth..
We need to allow him to pursue his own conscience, who knows what this kid saw dealing with Sheen and Hollywood. Danny Bonnadecuci has said over and over "If you want to screw your kid up for life, force him to be a child actor!" other child actors echo his words too. Why are we no longer shocked when we hear the issues these kids turning adults are battling "drug abuse, depression, ect...."
If the SDA can prevent him from becoming the next Lindsay Lohan or Whitney Houston, Heath Ledger, what can't we wish the best for him? He's a kid for God's sake, give him a break!
you think if i had a few hundred made up and passed them out, would we throw some attention in the "court of public opinion" on this topic?.
i am confounded how many jws don't know anything about the pedophile issues plaguing the watchtower society!
is this a stupid idea or waste of money?
You think if I had a few hundred made up and passed them out, would we throw some attention in the "court of public opinion" on this topic?
I am confounded how many JWs don't know anything about the Pedophile Issues plaguing the Watchtower Society! Is this a stupid idea or waste of money? I thought of creating some and posting them near sign post near Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls but I don't know if it would have the desired effect of helping bring awareness to this wicked problem.
i have never understood one thing about jws.
ok i am not a witness but what has my son done?
he is an innocent child.
Hi TruJW, there's no glory in helping one's family in the JW Religion! If I decided to stop working and allow my wife to work full-time so I could pioneer, do all the elder "busy stuff", the Congregation would be rock and rolling with bliss! As my wife struggles to make a livings, I am out burning up her money driving the pioneers around the city, taking other families kids out in Service (not mine) and showing attention and helping other elder's mothers do some plumbing, roofing, home repair, or paper-work.
Taking care of your family meaning nothing, all that matters is enabling the "King Pins of Bethel"!
When my baby brother stopped attending meetings in 1988, I moved away and not one elder, servant or publisher came to ask why a fifthteen year old kid who never missed meetings stopped attending meetings. Five years later after his third year in College, with no respect for the Watchtower Organization some Goobers decided to stop by and ask "Hey, noticed your not making meeting much!" he say's "It only took you five years to notice my departure, the odd thing was I had nothing against the Organzation when I stopped going, I just felt weak and nobody was there." Part of this could be my fault, I was seventeen and had my own life working and going to college, chasing women.
JWs Children and Parents who follow the rules of the Watchtower turn against each other in a heart-beat, for decades for preceived wrongs either fictious or real. Your mother might feel be taking out her anger on you with your child?
JW's practice Corban, following the rules of Men, not Jesus Christ! We know for a fact now, they hid pedophiles from the Congregation, and joined the Wild Beast's Organization. Cults act very strange to their neighbors, their family (especially) trying to turn each member against each other! Cults desire to avoid anyone they preceive as weak, or not performing at two hundred percent of expectations. No amount of ass kissing will be enough or long enough to force these whack jobs to act human to you! Sorry, but is been played out so many times in various congregations.
i'm just catching up on the latest buzz here and it appears that there is a lot of buzz on the 'new light' coming from the watchtower concerning the governing body and the faithful and discreet slave.
if true, i can really use this to trick my wife and in-laws (who are coming in this weekend) to contradict the new light.. at first i was going to say that this can answer moshe's question regarding who really is the fds but i understand that the change simply means when the body meets on doctrinal matters is when they are collectively the fds.
is that correct?.
It's great you don't have to use the Bible to prove your the "Faithful Slave Of Lord Jesus Christ", and Seven Million people will believe without asking "is this really so?". JWs are no Bereans, just another group of lemmings heading for the cliff!
Eliminates all other annointed partakers as "frauds", oops!
i`m only halfway through chapter 4 and enjoying what i have read so far .so why am i asking for peoples comments now ?
the reason i have is this : i wish i had done something like this when i first was approached by the witnesses ,i beleive i would have been more informed to make some enlightened decisisions that would eventually shape my future .. whereas not doing so i spent the next 33 years a slave of the watchtower , and not just me but my wife and children , not that i`m suggesting i would be a slave of richard dawkins , but i can weigh up the pros and cons as i progress through his book ,then hopefully i can draw the right conclusions , if their are any.. smiddy.
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Smiddy, you pretend your Dr. Richard Dawkins in this debate against Dr. John Lennox about "The God Delusion Debate" held in the South. It's up to you to debunk the old Christian.
"http://fixed-point.org/index.php/video/35-full-length/164-the-dawkins-lennox-debate
i`m only halfway through chapter 4 and enjoying what i have read so far .so why am i asking for peoples comments now ?
the reason i have is this : i wish i had done something like this when i first was approached by the witnesses ,i beleive i would have been more informed to make some enlightened decisisions that would eventually shape my future .. whereas not doing so i spent the next 33 years a slave of the watchtower , and not just me but my wife and children , not that i`m suggesting i would be a slave of richard dawkins , but i can weigh up the pros and cons as i progress through his book ,then hopefully i can draw the right conclusions , if their are any.. smiddy.
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can someone please tell me in the simplest ways?
thanks.
Lars do you think all Christians go to Heaven and who compose the 144,000 figurative or literal number?
1. how many members served in jerusalem's "governing body" according to the following sources?.
(a) biblical source (matthew,mark, luke, john, paul, peter, jude).
(b) inference from watchtower artist under "inspiration/direction/guidance" of march 15, 1990 magazine.. (c) after jerusalem fell in 70 ad, where did the "governing body" go?.
According to Acts there is close to 5000 members in the Jerusalem Congregation, all would have had access to this discussion since it involved all the brothers and sisters.
Paul and Barnabas head down to Jerusalem after 14 years of preaching, missionary work without meeting this phantom Governing Body, Paul say's he met "Peter and James the brother of our Lord Jesus Christ." note that Paul was not given his assignment by a "Governing Body" but by a brother "Annais" St. Paul and St. Barnabas are not directed by a Governing Body, Paul said he did not meet Peter or James (again I say this) until fourteen years after being called to serve as the "Apostle Of the Gentiles". The Governing Body myth is blown out of the water by these few statements but we proceed. Paul gets to clean up the mess the Governing Body in Jerusalem is causing by sending crazy Traveling Circuit elders to spread errors to Antioch and Silicia's congregations.
The Jerusalem congregation sends men to Antioch Syria (Coastal Side) confusing the truth and freedom of Christ, by telling the Congregation "You must be circumcized and follow the Law of Moses". Antioch elders send's brothers to see if these trouble-makers from Jerusalem are telling the truth.
A one-time gathering ensues (probably with both men and women) with Holy Spirit opperating over their meeting (Something that's never happened with the 2/3s majority fake Governing Body) in Jerusalem, it's official that Christians are not to follow the tiny little rules the men sent from the "Governing Body" are spreading all over the Christian areas. Abstain from Blood and Fornication, Idols! ..
P.S. I thought "Dirty Mary or Crazy Larry" with their "Forty JW Truths" would defend a doctrine with eternal consequences like the GB. JW Apologist must be reading old literature and being stumbled like me. I must say the inept nature of Ray Publisher's Trial threw the final wrench in my belief system with Watchtower Theology.
1. how many members served in jerusalem's "governing body" according to the following sources?.
(a) biblical source (matthew,mark, luke, john, paul, peter, jude).
(b) inference from watchtower artist under "inspiration/direction/guidance" of march 15, 1990 magazine.. (c) after jerusalem fell in 70 ad, where did the "governing body" go?.
a. There is no Governing Body that meet regulary to discuss issues developing in the Christian Community of 36CE until 200 CE.
b. The inference from the Watchtower Magazine qouted appears close to 12-18 potential Governing Body members in Jerusalem, not accurate according to all sources available. The trouble makers causing "problems, disturbances" came from Jerusalem's (Governing Body), not Antioch or Silicia. The Watchtower Magazine in focus, errors with such a small amount of elders and Apostles and representives from Antioch not being in the picture. The magazine allows the reader to draw the conclusion the Organization desires. Pulp Fiction, this drawing is fraud and promotes the lie!
c. There was no Governing Body, no historical evidence exists, therefore no Early Church Fathers mention this one time event, caused by the trouble makers in Jerusalem wanting the Gentiles to obey the Law of Moses.
d. According to ancient writings, members were free to meet to discuss doctrine with everyone! The apostates who wished to steal our Christian Freedom demanded the "rank and file" not be allowed into the meetings these "Governing Body of Bishops Rule-Makers" 200C.E.
Can you guess which book I learnd this cool information from?
