Posts by Tiktaalik

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Lol......

by snare&racket in

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watchtower june 2015....... .

the bible and proven scientific facts.

the bible does not claim to be a textbook of scientific knowledge.

Tiktaalik

And what of the sound scientific principles underpinning evolution?

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"We can't even talk with you anymore! You react very abruptly"

by stuckinarut2 in

so that was the line used by an elder the other day to me!.

he implied that i react badly when spoken to by the elders.. i corrected him and said: "no, i'm always happy to have a conversation.

but what you seem to be implying is that unless i sit and accept and take everything you say, then i am being defensive?

I haven't been on this site for a while - it's good to take a long break now and then - but I see you are still stuck in the same old way of thinking that characterised your earlier offerings on these boards.

You KNOW how the Organisation is. You KNOW how the petty little minds of the elders work and the demeaning way they treat members in the congregation. And yet you post on here like it's news. You need to move on from this affected outrage. You need to stop the shrill posturing. All you are doing is playing into the elders' hands and allowing yourself to become a victim.

The more you struggle and kick against the org from within the more power it has over you. The longer you protest and act 'independently' the less agency you have.

The best thing that you can do in your situation is walk out the door of the hall and never go back.

The way you are acting, you will be thrown out anyway. This is the ultimate power the elders have and the longer you act up, the more they will want to demonstrate their power, and reinforce their control over you.

I advised you when you first started to post on this site that you should just leave. You posted about how boring and idiotic the watchtower studies were. You posted requests for assistance with meeting parts to help wake up the flock. I advised you stop all that nonsense and just leave. You didn't respond well to my advice saying that you were hurt by my bluntness. Fair enough. You couldn't just leave, you said, because you and obligations that made such action difficult. Fair enough. But still you kept posting about the absurdity of the meetings, often while you were sitting in, and participating in, the meeting you were whinging about.

It is difficult to leave. For me it was the hardest thing I have ever done. It took me years to get over it the trauma. The pain of what you are forced to give up never really goes away. But for me it was the best, the most profound and certainly the most courageous decision I have ever made. The longer you delay the worse it will be for you. You cannot live two separate lives and be in good mental health. The longer you delay in leaving the witnesses the greater the mental toll you will pay. The ONLY thing that I regret about leaving the JWs is that I did not do it sooner. I wasted years, and I will never get those years back.

Be kind to yourself. Stop wasting your precious time. Stop squandering your mental energy and ruining your mental health. Stop playing power games with the elders (you will always lose - it's their rules). Stop thinking that you can change the org from within (you can't).

Just leave.

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God's Spirit

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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what is god's spirit?

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i ask this of those who believe in god.

Tiktaalik

Vodka

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

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yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

Tiktaalik

Your enthusiasm is commendable.

However, your choice of activity is not. What a waste of your time.

Instead of bothering people in their homes, why not volunteer at a community charity?

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why didnt God just do this?

by sowhatnow in

for one thing, i cant get past genesis, but no matter.. when god told adam and eve if you eat from the tree youll die.

so why did he not simple let them die and not allow the offspring to?.

you see, if i was a god, and i told two people that, id let them die , .

Tiktaalik

Your logic is impeccable.

However, you do realise that the whole Adam & Eve thing is simply a myth, right?

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I've been stumbled.

by silent in

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i just realized that all these dates that the borg have said the end would come on or by and then it didn't happen, have stumbled me.

why such a fascination and trying to divine the answer from scripture when scripture plainly says only the father knows the day and the hour?

by their predictions, they actually sent many christians on the path of date-based worship insted of faith-based worship.. if they have stumbled me, then who is reponsible for that?.

Tiktaalik

Take responsibility for your own beliefs.

Don't hand it off to anyone else.

Believe whatever you want but work it out for yourself.

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Worker falls from KH roof during quick build

by piztjw in

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i heard through the grapevine that one of the slave laborers was walking backwards on the roof of the falls city, nebraska quick build this weekend and fell of the roof.

i heard he landed on his back and head and sustained some pretty serious injuries.. anyone in that area that might provide more information?

extent of injury?

Tiktaalik

@berrygerry >> "...and his parents (who were both truly anointed)..."

Hmmm, I think not. Truly dillusional, undoubtably. Truly demented, probably.

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Heading to Melbourne International Convention right NOW Regular updates live here!

by Witness 007 in

9.10 am on the train heading in..how late am i?

train is full of witnesses and comic book characters...they have a comic convention.

they seem to be having more fun.. .

Tiktaalik

My 13 year old nephew was one of those baptised. Sigh....

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Worker falls from KH roof during quick build

by piztjw in

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i heard through the grapevine that one of the slave laborers was walking backwards on the roof of the falls city, nebraska quick build this weekend and fell of the roof.

i heard he landed on his back and head and sustained some pretty serious injuries.. anyone in that area that might provide more information?

extent of injury?

Tiktaalik

I shudder to think at some of the unsafe working conditions that were allowed to develop on QBs and at bethel construction I worked on in the 80s &90s.

WorkSafe would close these sites and charges would be laid, if it happened today.

In Australia it is illegal to work at heights without fall protection. No worker should be able to fall off a roof in the first instance.

If a worksite is unsafe, then WorkSafe (Govt. Authority) can close the site immediately and charges are levied against the owners / managers. The penalties are onerous. Heavy fines and imprisonment, especially in the case of injuries or fatalities.

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Heading to Melbourne International Convention right NOW Regular updates live here!

by Witness 007 in

9.10 am on the train heading in..how late am i?

train is full of witnesses and comic book characters...they have a comic convention.

they seem to be having more fun.. .

Tiktaalik

Thanks for the updates 007 & Stuck.

Vomitous stuff. I pity you guys having to endure this.