Any bethelite at Wallkill, Paterson, or Brooklyn can look up any U.S. bethelite through Admin 2000, the internal computer program they use at bethels used for shipping, lookup, etc. You'll see a persons ID photo, their room number, roommate, phone number, work number, department, and location (Wallkill, Patterson, or Brooklyn). Biggest regret I have it not screenshotting the whole writing committee/administration guys info and putting it on a USB drive and taking it home. I think there were like 3 women and 7 old guys on the writing committee, and administration was the "GB and their helpers", probably around 20-30 old guys.
Richard_I
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Anyone here work at World HQ in Brooklyn?
by InChristAlone inif you do and are familiar with the writing staff, please pm me.
no need to compromise your identity by posting in public..
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"Are the Jehovahs Witnesses onto something?" - re: blood transfusions - Montreal Gazette
by Incognito ini haven't seen anything posted about this but here is a link to a july 12/13 montreal gazette article entitled: .
too much blood: researchers fear the gift of life may sometimes endanger itthe title of this thread was taken directly from the article.. http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/much+blood+researchers+fear+gift+life+sometimes+endanger/8652224/story.html.
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Richard_I
Some quotes from the article regarding JWs:
When doctors at a New Jersey hospital pioneered a “bloodless” surgery program for patients who refused blood transfusions on religious grounds, they discovered something totally unexpected: Jehovah’s Witnesses, who would choose death over a transfusion, recovered just as well as transfused patients — and in many cases, even better.
They suffered fewer post-surgery complications, spent less time on mechanical breathing machines and had shorter stays in intensive care.
Recently, doctors from the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio reported that Jehovah’s Witnesses who refused blood transfusions while undergoing cardiac surgery were significantly less likely to need another operation for bleeding compared with non-Witnesses who were transfused. They were also less likely to suffer a post-op heart attack or kidney failure.
Are the Jehovah’s Witnesses onto something?
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While Jehovah’s Witnesses have taught doctors that the body can compensate for extraordinarily low levels of hemoglobin, levels that are too low mean the cells and tissues in the brain and other vital organs become starved of oxygen.
Hebert has watched Jehovah’s Witnesses die for refusing to be transfused, an experience that leaves the medical team feeling helpless. “But you can’t force your values on someone else,” he says.
Hebert says more research and education is needed to help doctors decide how long they can safely wait before ordering blood, how much blood they should give and when to hold off giving any blood at all.
“The problem is that we don’t have the data,” Hebert said. “In many cases, we just don’t know.”
It's a very long article, but an interesting read. They also include a diagram of a few statistics on blood transfusions in Canada.
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WT ASL (Sign Language) Masturbation Video - Got Links?
by Oubliette inan associate of mine, never a jw but curious for professional reasons, heard about the now infamous wt asl masturbation video and wanted to see it for himself.
i have searched the jw.org website and the society has apparently pulled (pun intended) the video.
in fact, all the asl videos appear to have been removed.
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Richard_I
They aren't taken down at all...
http://www.jw.org/apps/E_QrYQZRQVNFVTr
I think this might be the one
http://download.jw.org/files/media_books/d6/lv_ASL_09_r480P.m4v
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JW ex-boss is such a horrid man!
by Julia Orwell inok, so my husband worked for this slave driver jw boss in a factory, and injured his back on the job.
so my husband has launched a compensation claim against the jw boss's worker insurance for unsafe work practices.
so the jw ex boss has responded to the claim with this mega statement affidavit thing.
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Richard_I
I was also gonna make a topic on this as well. My JW bosses have been the worst thus far, they take advantage of their JW workers, they unneccessarily hold your cheques (i've gone five weeks without a cheque once!), they expect their workers to be worked to exhaustion, and they often yell at their workers. Obviously I have experienced all of the above, but so has my brother with different JW bosses. Some brothers are downright ferocious in their anger when something goes wrong and will scream at their workers, a very scary sight that I've seen a few times.
Never, ever work for a JW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS! They'll just take advtange of you! Plus none of my bosses ever did direct deposit, I always had to pester them for a cheque to deposit myself. And they expect far too much from their workers.
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Dumb line in Bible Study presentation in July 2013 KM
by Richard_I inin the july 2013 km for the presentation to start a study, this is the recommended presentation: "almost everyone prays at one time or another.
even atheists have prayed when in trouble.
do you think that god listens to all prayers?".
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Richard_I
in the July 2013 KM for the presentation to start a study, this is the recommended presentation: "Almost everyone prays at one time or another. Even atheists have prayed when in trouble. Do you think that God listens to all prayers?"
Why did they include this line about athiests? If a jw encounters an athiest, the athiest is gonna stop them right there and tell them how disrespectful that is. That line is only there to start an argument, really, it serves no purpose other than upset people.
Can you imagine someone coming up to you and saying, "Everyone prays! Even athiests pray when they're about to die!" Very confrontational.
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CO's public talk is a 25min DVD
by BroMac inwe translate into all these languages.
even the ones that may seem small, like the blackfoot native american.
and when we go and take the message to them they just cant believe this is in their mother tongue.
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Richard_I
Is this the same all across the globe? I had to watch this today, too. And of course the concluding talk was basically "WE NEED MONEY TO DO THIS TRANSLATING WORK!!!!" The Blackfoot part was from southern Alberta, showing the tract tailored to Native Canadians (and Native Americans too I guess?) titled "There is a Creator" or something like that. Geoffrey Jackson was the narrator.
Also, they kept mentioning "there are over 6,700 languages spoken" and yet JW's only translate into something like 600 I think it said? Long ways to go yet...
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Canada Zone Visit - April 2013
by Richard_I injust got word of a zone visit for canada in april 2013, think it was april 8 to 14. sounds like its just 2 members of the u.s. branch comittee, no gb.
however, they plan on showing a talk on april 13/14 to all congregations in canada, not just a select few as has always been the case.. it'll be the same old stuff, but maybe this is why they the watchtower is purchasing all those projectors, like that "confidential" document mentions?
to broadcast things like this in all congregations?.
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Richard_I
@TheOldHippie: I honestly couldn't concentrate, ADD and stuff. The first talk was basically about how wealthy Abraham was and something about Nabal, basically I guess it was "make sure you donate to the organization". The second one was just a typical "imitate Jesus" talk. prologos seemed to get the same out of it, there really wasn't anything special about the visit, it was a long 3 hours. Plus I had to work afterwards so I was thinking about that too.
Also I just remembered Thomas mentioned almost all schools will also be held in Canada now, so Canadians don't have to travel to the States anymore for the School for Single Brothers, School for CO's and their Wives, etc. Previously most of these schools were only in the U.S. I think now the only one still only in the states is Gilead.
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What is a zone visit like from the inside?
by hoser inwhile i was sitting through the zone talks yesterday, i couldn't help but think what it would be like to be at bethel when the company reps come around.
it must be a stressful time for everyone at the branch to be scrutinized by headquarters..
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Richard_I
I was never around for one, but I recall reading antoher thread about how our buddy Teddy Jaracz went to visit a Bethel, presumably as part of a zone visit, and asked every single volunteer what they do. Shortly after he left, many of the people he talked to were let go. So i assume it must be a nervous/apprehensive atmosphere especially for the purchasing and service departments.
I assume its still the same, get rid of the excess baggage and lower costs, exactly like when a CEO inspects a branch. Because think, why else would the U.S. send a rep to a branch other than to cut costs? Also probably to grill the branch committee over how the progress in that country is slowing down.
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Canada Zone Visit - April 2013
by Richard_I injust got word of a zone visit for canada in april 2013, think it was april 8 to 14. sounds like its just 2 members of the u.s. branch comittee, no gb.
however, they plan on showing a talk on april 13/14 to all congregations in canada, not just a select few as has always been the case.. it'll be the same old stuff, but maybe this is why they the watchtower is purchasing all those projectors, like that "confidential" document mentions?
to broadcast things like this in all congregations?.
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Richard_I
This just happened this morning. Brother Ramseyer (forget his first name and how to spell his last name, he's on the branch committee) was the chairman, coordinator of the branch committee Ken Little gave opening prayer, member of branch committee Walter Trubeyk (forget how to spell his last name) gave the summary of the Watchtower, then Clive Thomas (printery overseer) gave "highlights" of whats being done in Canada. Specifically, Thomas mentioned the "Manhattan project" is being expanded in Canada under a more formal name, he said it but I forget what it was. Anyway it will be in major cities across Canada and will feature that box with the shelves holding a bunch of Bible Teach books. Also, Canada's active publisher peaked in March at over 115,000 and there are over 11,000 pioneers, (they've been setting peaks every few months recently) while memorial attendance was almost exactly the same as last year (haha). Canada branch is also printning books and brochures again alongside the mags, so they made the announcment they need more single brothers to waste their lives at bethel.
Then Daniel Molchan, a helper to the GB, gave a talk which I completely forget was about. After him Daniel Molchan of the US Branch Committee gave a talk on Jesus and stuff. Both were pretty tame talks, there wasn't any "post-secondary education is the devil!!!" or extreme statements like that (guess you need to the GB to do that). Also one of the guys wives works in purchasing while the other is on the computer department.
Anyway it was a long, boring 3 hours to sit thru. And i already forgot most of it.
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What Is Security Like At The Bethel Compound ?
by frankiespeakin injust currious, when i was there you could sneak in but now security is a lot tighter..
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Richard_I
The American bethels all have ID cards with chips in them that can open doors. Here's what mine looked like (the blurred text is just the addresses for Wallkill, Paterson, and Brookyln), it displays your picture and your name. The card works at all three sites and is also used to access the locked parking lots nearby Brooklyn Bethel. You have to turn it in to the Home Office when you leave as well, that's just a pic I took of it when I had it.
@Anony Mous: I was thinking of this the other day, but I am pretty sure its impossible. When you enter the lobby, a tour guide/front desk person has to unlock the doors to enter the facility. There's no way an outsider can enter without a card. Its the same way in the Canada Bethel, the front desk people push a button to unlock the doors to enter the facility. There's a slim chance you could get in through the doors by the residences in Wallkill if you walk in with someone else, but its way too risky IMO.
There were a few cameras in Wallkill, and I think there are some around Canada Bethel. And yes they do have guard dogs, at least I know Canada Bethel has 1 or 2 now, think they were both German Shepherds. Also, security often has a truck or two (or more now) driving around the property. Some guys get called in to do a "walkabout" during nights where they have to walk around the facility during the night, it was pretty boring from what I hear and I remember one guy saying he got in trouble because he stayed in the printery too long during his walkabout (you have to carry a radio/walkie talkie with you too).