Posts by Richard

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Richard_I

I'd say maybe 1000 of all active JWs worldwide are active publishers but mentally out. I put my 2 hours in a month, nobody really talks to me at the meetings, i never comment, i get to the meetings 5 minutes late or just as the opening song is to be played, and leave within 5 minutes after the meeting. Some elders bother me about my activity but I just tell them I'll work on it and school's keeping me busy. I enjoy my "violent" video games and the occasional R-rated movie. I hope to be completely faded/disassociated within 2 years.

Even guys I knew who came to one or two meetings a month still seemed super in it, which i always found strange. I don't think I'll ever meet somebody else mentally out but still an active JW, it's too risky to admit it to others and then get ratted out.

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Critique of new JW DVD: These Words Must be on Your Heart.

by WingCommander in

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http://youtu.be/dhn2to663cu.

im really channeling my inner blondie with my observation and critiques of these new watchtower videos.

something about them really turns my stomach.

Richard_I

I had to watch the video recently and it seemed like such a "upper middle class white family crisis" sitcom that there's no way a sane person would take it seriously. The rap/hip-hop was pretty tame, the lyrics were gibberish mixed with some cool beats, but noo in JW-land anything hip-hop related is Satan! Also I LOL'ed when the guy threw the weed on the counter. The movie was so over the top. Also the video is on their website now, and in 720p.

For those who didn't watch the video, its basically the JW version of this 7th Heaven episode.

Also, @b00mslang: hell yeah, the mom was a babe.

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Lett briefly addresses the child abuse issues in new JW.org video

by Richard_I in

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i just read about this on the ex-jw subreddit.

link to the video (10m06s).. skip to 7:35 where he says: "another way we can contribute to the oneness - rejecting false stories that are designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.

as an example, think about the apostate-driven lies and 'dishonesties' that jehovah's organization is permissive toward pedophiles.

Richard_I

@Steve2: It took me a bit to understand what he was saying too, he repeats "takes action" twice which screws up his sentence structure. What I got from it was he's just saying "we protect kids and take action when kids are threatened".

@wannabefree: Maybe, but as some said on the ex-JW subreddit, this may be enough for JWs to just go "well that's all I need to hear, all these child abuse stories are just apostates lying" or some bullshit like that. But yes hopefully some really do start to think about why he would even mention something about child abuse.

Also, while Lett says "God's organization" protects kids from pedos, Richard Ashe said the opposite. "Within the congregation, ours is a spiritual protection, and we're talking about physical protection, and that's up to the secular authorities to provide." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1-kuAnYMTU

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Lett briefly addresses the child abuse issues in new JW.org video

by Richard_I in

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i just read about this on the ex-jw subreddit.

link to the video (10m06s).. skip to 7:35 where he says: "another way we can contribute to the oneness - rejecting false stories that are designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.

as an example, think about the apostate-driven lies and 'dishonesties' that jehovah's organization is permissive toward pedophiles.

Richard_I

I just read about this on the ex-JW subreddit. Link to the video (10m06s).

Skip to 7:35 where he says: "Another way we can contribute to the oneness - rejecting false stories that are designed to separate us from Jehovah's organization. As an example, think about the apostate-driven lies and 'dishonesties' that Jehovah's organization is permissive toward pedophiles. I mean, that is ridiculous, isn't it? If anybody takes action against someone who would threaten our young ones and takes action to protect our young ones, it's Jehovah's organization. We reject outright such lies."

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77-year-old Jehovah's Witness murdered by her bible study.(Japan)

by jwstudy in

19-year-old girl arrested for killing 77-year-old woman in nagoya.

crime jan. 28, 2015 - 03:00pm jst .

nagoya .

Richard_I

None of those articles said the victim is a JW, just that she participated in a door-to-door ministry. The only one who says she was a JW is a random commenter on the Japan Times article.

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Layoffs at Canadian Bethel

by wannaexit in

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looks like the canadian bethel is following in the footsteps of big brother from new york.

i heard through the grapevine that a number of couples have been given their notice.

some of these folks have been in bethel for over 30 years.

Richard_I

Again?? I heard a similar thing a few years back. Before they got the new press, they put in a massive push for more young brothers. More than 50 young brothers became part of the bethel family. But then some stuff changed, and now I heard shipping uses a mobile device on their arms or something to scan orders? It's sounds like automation has eliminated a lot of the shipping brothers, which is where most of the work is.

However, like you mentioned, wannaexit, the majority is couples in their 30s/40s at bethel. When I got there I was really surprised that it was all mostly couples, the young brothers was kind of a minority. Wonder what they'll do with all that free space now.

And no coincidence Georgetown is getting a zone visit in March. Wonder what's going on inside.

Also, there's only like 400-450 people (450 at its most when they got the new press going in 2010) at Canada Bethel, so it's kind of small. The Americans called it the "country club" because it has a beautiful property and a nice atmosphere.

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Canada branch visit March 21-22, 2015.

by wifibandit in

full set: http://imgur.com/a/ablie.

pdf: https://mega.co.nz/#!gxc0wyct use key:osv-jurzqa8_i7-fpqpiu2kfumx-2uozpoyqevvhvdm.

sample:.

Richard_I

I'll be attending this. Nothing happens at them though, it's just the typical "you're not doing enough, here's a 2.5 hour rant" shit from some old man.

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2015 Convention locations - US & CA

by wifibandit in

full set: http://imgur.com/a/czt56.

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Richard_I

Nice, thank you for this. Canada's seems to be the same as last year.

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2 BOEs arrived!

by Atlantis in

from a source:.

2015 hotel arrangements... click the link by the blue arrow.. https://www.sendspace.com/file/qp1oxc.

.. .. 2015 january 2, boe.. https://www.sendspace.com/file/n9duoj.

Richard_I

What the hell? You use their new website to book a room? This is so weird for WT, they must get a kickback or some $ for a referral through this. Also, the fact they trained 40 guys "to become proficient in effective hotel negotiations" is just really weird. They must be pushing to the hotels that they can generate good money with the hundres to thousands of witnesses at the conventions. I know restaurants that now advertise to the JWs during the conventions because they tip well and many come in big groups. Showing their true colours, I guess

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Yearbooks 1960 to 1969 PDF!

by Atlantis in

if you missed these you can get them now.

the yearbooks of the 1970s will be posted soon.. .. click the link by the blue arrow.. .. 1960 yearbook.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/l4485y.

Richard_I

Thank you very much for this.

Richard_I

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