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  I love you people.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. friends

  just wanted to say that.

  so many wonderful people here.

  so many crushed and broken hearts, healing together now.

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  I have thought this same thing for a long time now.....how GREAT the kind and loving folks here really ARE.....and even more so in the last couple of weeks. Thanks, Jeff, for coming right out and saying so!

  hugs,

  Annie
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  In Need of Advice

  by Lo-ru-hamah in

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  2. friends

  i have a friend that has just been diagnosed with stage four uterine cancer.

  i would love to get her a gift but i am unsure what i could do, send or say that would be helpful.

  any suggestions?.

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  Depending on the personal taste of the patient....maybe a very pretty and lacy/frilly bedjacket or some pearl-toned nailpolish would brighten her days spent in bed.

  hugs,

  Annie
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  Throwing the Baby out with the Bathwater Goodbye Watchtower Hello Nothing?

  by Magick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as witnesses who were deeply indoctrinated.

  we accepted all of jehovah's witness teachings as a total package, it was "the truth".

  there were no cracks in our armor that would allow other ideas, doctrines or thoughts to seep in.

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  There have been some EXCELLENT points made here, starting with the opening post. I had been a "hook-line and sinker" JW for 30 years, but in debating WTS beliefs online, I then saw some ideas that I never had seen before. Fortunately for me---as I lost faith and trust in the WTS teachings, I did not lose these in the bible or in Jesus Christ. I DID still feel there was credibility and truth in these although I admit that I have MUCH more appreciation for the New Testament Jesus and HIS teachings now....and not in the Old Testament teachings of "Jehovah". I have "gone" to Jesus after leaving the WTS.
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  Michael Porter (UK JW Paedophile) Imprisoned

  by AlphaOmega in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7094591.stm.

  porter carried out the assaults between 1986 and 2000 paedophile jailed for 18 months a paedophile who was originally given a community rehabilitation order by a judge has been jailed for 18 months.

  michael porter had previously pleaded guilty to 25 cases of indecent assault on a male and committing gross indecency with or towards a child.

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  Michael Porter had previously pleaded guilty to 25 cases of indecent assault on a male and committing gross indecency with or towards a child.

  With the amount of instances that he pled guilty to, I have to wonder why this was such a pitifully small amount of jail time that he was actually sentenced to.
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  Pounding On False Prophecy Hitting Home?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it may be coincidence, but i noticed that both the annual meeting and a recently reported bethel speaker brought up the matter of the.

  watchtower's false predictions, a bit more openly than usual.

  a potentially dangerous perception may be emerging ( hooray!).

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  I will keep repeating that this issue of false prophecy is
  

  simpler and easier to understand than almost any other disproof of Watchtowerism. Wrong is wrong is wrong. If their track record is one of

  exposed falsehood in predicting the future, why believe anything they claim?

  So many times on a few other forums....I have asked how the JWs could place ANY faith and trust in ANYTHING the WTS says, given their past history of blunders and distinct errors in every proohecy or speculation they have uttered? WHAT could they possibly say NOW.....that could or would assure JWs that what they print....is the "corrected" view?

  I have YET to receive a convincing or comprehensive answer to this.
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  In a blink

  by bem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this song by kenny chesney is such a great song the words are so true, when i faded from jw existence to a life i relized that life is too short and there are some very elemental things that make it worth living and pretty much the rest filler to be able to exist.

  family and i mean the ones who care for us and about us are whats important not necessarily the people we are kin too, but the family we choose.

  take time to listen to this video there is an interview with a man 102 years old at the begining of the video this alone makes it worth watching.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4yssg4qg8g.

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  A Precious video echoing precious advice. Thanks for sharing.

  hugs,

  Annie
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  I just received a LOVELy letter from Trevor

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in answer to the one i sent him..i had sent him some christian tracts .which he admits he has little use for spiritual things ( which i can understand bless him) but he did say he wouldnt throw them away one day maybe!!!.

  he said that he agreed with me that an apology is truly in order ,& wanted to take this time & the opportunity to offer an unreserved apology for his conduct on jwd,of which he is both ashamed & embarrassed to everyone there /\....he also added he wished you all a very happy christmas.. .

  he added that he has not been on jwd since ....thought i would let you all know.. so any who do pray .

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  At my age I have come to the conclusion I am not in control of this rotton world, I love the beauty parts but the terrible things that are going on is out of my hands ....Before I always felt like I had to do something to help NOW I know I am just like a little ant. I walk around this vast universe carrying my own load, could be stepped on at any moment , but at least I am still seeing the sights... This dont make sense to many people I know but thats ME!!! Weird.!!!! If you listened to the testimony I sent you ,you heard me tell you others call me weird LOL

  Sometimes I have to s-t-r-e-t-c-h to understand what some posters are sayng...in YOUR case....I can say that I totally understand what you are trying to say. I have listened to the tape you sent and I didn't think you were weird in the least! So many of the things you said-I could relate to in my own life....and when I attended the WNFJ convention that you mentioned, LOL! It was delightful and I enjoyed the tape immensely. I was proud to know you all over again!

  You have so much to share and we are thrilled that you are here to share things with US!

  hugs,

  Annie
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  'My Space' hoax ends in suicide

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  his name was josh evans.

  megan meier is fat.".

  i told her it's ok. i told her that they obviously don't know her.

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  I sincerely hope that this horrific incident is being brought to and being discussed BY the people involved with this hoax. I think they NEED to be made aware of the repercussions of their "joke" and be made to deal with this outcome by devoting themselves to doing community service etc. This should NOT just pass off into the land of the forgotten news---but should be held up as an example of what can (and DID) happen to this girl and ultimately---to her family.

  HOW does someone find out who HAS their own "Myspace" sites?
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  I just received a LOVELy letter from Trevor

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in answer to the one i sent him..i had sent him some christian tracts .which he admits he has little use for spiritual things ( which i can understand bless him) but he did say he wouldnt throw them away one day maybe!!!.

  he said that he agreed with me that an apology is truly in order ,& wanted to take this time & the opportunity to offer an unreserved apology for his conduct on jwd,of which he is both ashamed & embarrassed to everyone there /\....he also added he wished you all a very happy christmas.. .

  he added that he has not been on jwd since ....thought i would let you all know.. so any who do pray .

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  I need all the prayers I can get. I have been fooled so many times but you know the sayings "fools rush in where Angels fear to tread " I have been duped MORE than twice so change your prayers to may be forty times

  Grace.....since you have left the WTS and have focused your love and concern on others and in truly helping them........you most likely HAVE made mistakes, but they were not because of purposely setting out to deceive those you had contact with. It was quite a feat to deliberatley dupe an entire forum of people that had taken "Linda's" (and Trevor's) plight to our hearts, respond in kind, and sob together in grief when we were told she had died, etc. It was cruel and heartless, AND so carefully orchestrated along the way.

  I would pray that I never hurt your feelings.....and I certainly have not progressed in my newfound Christianity to the point that you obviously have demonstrated ESPECIALLY in how I still view Trevor at this time.....but until HE comes forward to apologize for deeply hurting the loving members of JWD, I personally do not feel he needs or wants true cleansing or forgiveness.

  I DO care what you think. You have become VERY special to me. I admire who YOU are and what YOU are comfortable with doing......perhaps one day I too will achieve this level of pure humanity....but I am only "where I am NOW" and feeling ANY empathy for Trevor and his actions, I am afraid I cannot FIND it in me at this point in time. I do hope dear friend, that this does not offend you or have you think any less of me now.

  I could have avoided posting on this thread, but I felt compelled to do so.....and here it is. ALL of us that were involved in the emotionally painful scam that was perpetrated on this board---DO have the right to be heard and to express their opinion on how this did and still does affect them. He hit us way BELOW the belt. On purpose. If we had NOT been warm, loving and receptive to "Linda and Trevor's" needs and what we were led to believe was their tragic story....then it would have all been different. We would not have the depth OF those emotions to draw from and there would be no NEED for any further discussion on him.

  You are truly beautiful and I could not love you any more as a cherished friend than I do right now.....but I really needed to add my thoughts to this.....

  love and hugs always,

  Annie
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  Questiions that JW's can not answer

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was an elder for 10 years.

  there were some questions that i was asked by the flock which.

  i could not answer.

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  Sunspot

  Great questions, but JWs do have an answer to all of them........

  ......"wait on Jehovah, he'll reveal all of these things to us in due time."

  There you have it, the answer to every unanswerable question we can imagine.

  Isn't this pretty much what we were told anyway? There was no need to speculate on what might be.....but only strive to DO MORE in placing the WTS literature to assure that your place will be among those who will survive!

  I also wondered why we never saw the (proposed) interiors of the homes the happy JWs would be living and entertaining in.....and too, WHY we never saw trucks or utility vehicles to transport the lumber and supplies needed to BUILD the homes! Is everything just automatically (and magically) made to "appear" wherever the householder wished it?

  Where were windows FOR these residences supposed to come from? How would they keep the lawns, grounds and gardens so meticulously groomed with no tools, plows, backhoes, brush hogs and the like?

  There was a drawing of little kids in a picnic setting and there were DRINKING STRAWS in the glasses! Now who was going to sit down and handmake these straws? Little details with big explanations needed.